I am a frame builder AMA

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M_V in reply to @jono84

You probably do get about an extra 5mm out of the Surly ones.

Edit: That said, I’ve never thought the paragon ones were particularly short. Anything more than a link of chain’s worth is overkill right?

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jono84 in reply to @M_V

Thanks mate that's super helpful. Think the Paragon's look shorter than they are as they have quite a tall profile.

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