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  • As an owner of a pick up truck, figured I would stick my hand up.

    I live on a farm, so it is used for its intended purpose, of which it is unmatched in it's ability.

    The tax break thing is really not an easy thing to solve. Pick up trucks are classed technically as vans, and have historically been used by builders and farmers to cart 1 tonne loads around, as they are really useful to do this.

    There seems to be two ways to remove the tax break;

    1. Reclassify pickup trucks as non commerical vehicles, but that means that there are plenty of legitimate users who will then get taxed who shouldn't be.
    2. Somehow check that the people driving the vehicle are using it for a legitimate reason, but who is going to set what a legit reason is and then police it?
  • will then get taxed who shouldn't be.

    Why shouldn't it be? It's a big car, tax it as one.
    Want to save tax, find an alternative to carting everything around in a big truck.

    Banning their use in cities would be progressive. But who has the government with balls enough to do that?

  • I’m all ears as to alternative ways to take farm supplies from the store to the farm, not sure bales of straw will fit on the back of a cargo bike…

    I’m all for banning them in cities, seems a logical step to me.

  • For a bunch of reasons, many of which have been stated by @Sam_w.

    The farm has a Quad, a Pick-up, and a LR. The LR is good, but fails when you don't have a trailer, the Quad is great when the ground is sopping wet, and you have the trailer. The pickup, just works.
    I would say nearly all the actual farmers round that part of Devon have one, and its because of their insane practicality. Giving what is essentially a tiny tax break to farmers who have to survive on tiny margins, does not seem unreasonable to me.

    I know farms managed plenty well in the past with smaller cars, but the scale, size and demands of farms these days does not allow for that halcyonian world.

    The other point- that Pickups are off-road vehicles is erroneous as well, they are cars, with a functional flat bed, open air, extendable load bay, that can easily be adapted for use across building, farming and other uses, and that flexibility is why they are popular.
    Putting them into an category with SUV/unnecessary 4x4 is a short-sighted, city focused, white-collar view of the world, for those who can afford the 'greener' alternatives.
    (of which, there are none that are practicable for the use-cases above.)

    Signed, a short-sighted, city-focused, white-collar cunt.

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