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  • I can see where @TGR is coming from here, maybe it's just a bit of a backlash from the excessive "SPEED KILLS" advertising we've seen over in NI. Coming back to my previous point about the dangers of people doing 40mph on the motorway, I think we can all agree that large speed differentials increase the likelihood of incidents. Whether that's someone doing 70 in a 30, or 30 in a 70. And of course the magnitude of the incident is strongly correlated with the speed at the time of the incident.

  • The speed kills message is one heavily promoted by enforcement authorities. Speed is easy to prove in court.
    Bad driving is a different thing - not so easy to prove, some time and effort involved and no guaranteed result.
    Enforcement of ‘bad driving’ regulations is almost non-existent unless there is an accident. There is very little preemptive work being done to target bad driving.
    Saying all that, enforcement authorities have not got the staff to do this. I think I read that road policing staff numbers have reduced by a massive amount in the past five years. I would not be surprised if police services only employ the bare minimum of road policing officers - legislated to cover motorways and a few extra to cover fatal accidents.
    So, albeit I believe I have a valid point, there are no resources to address this unfortunately.

  • People tend to wait for gaps or take risks. If i knew the car is definitely going to stop I would just step out. Soon means that traffic would be at a halt.

  • @cozey can you revisit your avatar? Jesus wept

  • no chin shaming pls

  • In areas with pedestrians 20 mph is far safer when somebody gets hot by a car than 30.

    I never got why it's 30 everywhere here not pleasant when cycling either.

    On the motorway 70 Vs 85 may not make much of a difference in safety.

    Road policing is thin on the ground here. Perhaps being able to report shitty drivers easily with webcam footage to the PSNI may help?

  • English forces have easy access to download footage, I’m not sure if PSNI have that yet. If I get a dash cam, I could be busy at the computer 😁

  • get rid of all humana

    Problem solved

  • Kinda.

    Reaction time does not decrease as speed increases, it stays the same. But suddenly you've travelled much further in the time you've realised you need to hit the brakes.
    Speed does kill. Sometimes.

  • Meanwhile, on the topic of the UK's most irresponsible cyclist...


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  • Top work all round from Joe Lycett.


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  • The Tories have done some horrendous things but I can’t help thinking that mass privatisation of public assets was the worst by a mile.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/27/guy-hands-terra-firma-annington-homes-mod-ministry-defence

  • People + Cars = Twats

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60145268

    I live opposite a school, and in the mornings there's a queue of twats waiting to stop on the yellow hatched area to drop their kids off. The thought that their little darlings might have to walk a few yards must be anathema to them.

  • Out of curiosity there other parking available further from the school?

  • They don't park, they just stop and decant the kids. It's a fairly quiet area with lots of safe places to stop.

  • What's the right of way situation at a combined pedestrian and cycle path crossing? Most of these crossings it seems like traffic will stop for a pedestrian but not a cyclist, despite being on essentially the same path.

    An example outside the shopping centre in Walthamstow:

  • Cyclist has right of way


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  • Thanks, this figure will come in handy on my next near-miss ...

  • Road policing was an easy saving for the various forces when the Tory's made their first rounds of cuts in the 20teens.

    Low visibility so boom gone.

  • The idiot in heavy metal box who won't suffer consequences of hitting a meat bag doesn't care about right of way and keeps moving.

  • 'Right of way' is often used when people mean 'priority' or trying to describe a 'give way' situation. This is wrong usage. Over here, the term refers to established rights of way, e.g. the alignment of a bridle path.

    The drawing that marcomarcos has is obviously correct (and has the correct terminology).

    I don't have any experience of the Selborne Road crossing, so I'll take your word for it that it doesn't work in the way you describe. I'd say the reason for that may well be that it's not apparent to drivers why riders should want to cross here--there are railings on the south side of Selborne Road, and the idea that the crossing is there because cyclists might want to continue on the footway on that side (alongside Selborne Road) probably doesn't occur to most drivers.

    A better implementation of the same type of crossing is in Lower Clapton Road, and although there are still serious problems with this design, drivers are generally very good at giving way there:

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5507039,-0.0530721,3a,75y,229.77h,84.74t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBj5G1pn-ZP52J-5LGUesrQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DBj5G1pn-ZP52J-5LGUesrQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D238.12614%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

    I'd say this is because there's a clear alignment that crosses the main street here, so that the crossing visibly has that purpose. Other factors are probably that the street is less wide and less straight.

    What they should have done in Selborne Road is to install a (signalised) toucan crossing, old-fashioned and cumbersome though they are. It does happen that some design that happens to be modish goes in in lots of places, and in some cases it'll be good (also in Richmond Road, E8) and in other places it doesn't really work. Horses for courses.

  • Horses for courses.

    That'll be a Pegasus crossing.

  • Oh here we go with the big u-turn. Cresida on the case to limit the damage...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60166997

  • I’m sick of the degradation of public office.

  • We all know it’s a sham. Also admits there were other gathers

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