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  • I didn't know these were a thing, but saw a good video the other day on them:
    https://youtu.be/krVt_Uzm5Qs

  • Not to the drivers, not hard to squish a person like that though, it's probably not the biggest contributor but fast and quick to accelerate cars are often driven too quickly, they should all be boring AF to drive on public roads.

  • Yeah I think I'm also a bit jaded by my drive earlier where I had two occasions of dick heads driving too fast and dangerously. One in particular who was exceptionally dangerous.

  • I googled it, and surprisingly few road deaths come on motorways.

    Although motorways carry around 19 per cent of traffic, they only accounted for 5 per cent of fatalities in 2020. The number of people killed on motorways in 2020 was 79.

    Total road deaths in the year were 1460.

    Apparently most fatalities come on country A roads and B roads. Hard to find information on what speed people are going on those cases.

  • surprisingly few road deaths come on motorways.

    Not that surprising. Everyone is going in the same direction, there are no corners, traffic lights, no slowing or stopping

  • no slowing or stopping

    Lol

  • It's irrefutable proof that the majority of fatal accidents are caused by pedestrians and cyclists.

  • Going down the motorway last week, quite weekday evening and there was a car facing the wrong way, upside down, 12ft up in a tree, no other cars, just fire brigade and ambulance, mind boggles how people manage these things

  • If the memories from my youth are anything to go by, very fast.

    I remember my driving instructor telling me that when you got onto the national speed limit country roads that you had to show the examiner that you were aware there was a higher speed limit, i.e. floor it.

  • The M25 is often totally safe as no one is moving.

  • If the memories from my youth are anything to go by, very fast.

    I remember my driving instructor telling me that when you got onto the national speed limit country roads that you had to show the examiner that you were aware there was a higher speed limit, i.e. floor it.

    Mine too, and she was an ex Copper. Drive to the Speed Limit when it was safe was the advice.

    I guess that keeping speed to the traffic around you stops others from swerving into other lanes.

    When driving over the M62 the fog/mist/clag on the Saddleworth Moor area does justify a 40mph speed, however.

  • The speed thing - speed makes an accident more severe. Whether a 20mph or 70 mph limit. Higher speed equals more severe injuries. You don’t need stats to show this.
    Speed in itself does not kill - bad driving does. Careless/inconsiderate/reckless driving causes death and injury.
    This is not rocket science - bad diving kills - emergency services are trained for higher speeds - which they can travel at lawfully so a blanket ‘speed kills’ is non-sensical.
    I will argue this forever - look at YouTube and the massive amount of ‘road rage’ videos - the vast majority are caused by bad driving.
    On the auto driving cars - I’d be interested to see how one copes when another driver tries (presumably accidentally) to side swipe you - as happened me two days ago. I had to maintain my position but swerve to avoid a collision without hitting a kerb on the offside. It was one of those moments when horn or lights were never happening as it occurred so quickly.
    In summary - speed does not kill, bad driving does.

  • speed does not kill, bad driving does

    Bad driving causes accidents. Speed determines the outcome.

  • Thanks for explaining my point - much more succinctly.

  • Speed is bad driving. Driving is bad speed.

  • Mine is a Ford and doesn't set to 80 on the motorway but does get very confused sometimes. For example there is a bit of the M1 near Hemel that has a parallel A road with a 50 limit. The camera sees that and all power disappears until you either kick down or turn it off. Self-driving cars need to not make that kind of mistake.

    The camera got equally confused by the A2 contraflow with the lorry queue on the other carriageway with a different limit.

    Blooming marvelous in roadworks with speed restrictions usually.

  • I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Modify your speed to the road conditions. Daylight, no traffic - good visibly - speed could be 100. Same road in winter with ice and snow - safe speed could be 10.

  • Blood stains, speed kills
    Fast cars, cheap thrills.

  • Why does Andrew want a jury trial? Surely he doesn't think he's popular and credible in the US?

    So his attorneys can do what they do to victims of sexual abuse and assault - put them on the stand, re-traumatise, gaslight them and humiliate them with the goal of letting the "alleged" perpetrator avoid conviction. The sheer aggressiveness by his legal team points to a strategy to discredit her by any means possible rather than rely on evidence. I mean, the news papers use to publish royal diaries and commitments. He's the not the average person when it comes to life organisation. You would think that there would be in enough in his past diaries to validate the non-sweaty (royal physician) pizza express (audited receipts) stuff.

  • Of course not it's not hard to kill someone like that, but how many do? My point is that all these "easy" fixes to prevent road casualties suggested don't seem to target a significant cause of road deaths. Hence my earlier comparison to people asking for registration plates put on bikes. Or cyclists to get licences for that matter.

    I'm not at all knowledgeable about the current state (or future) of automated cars, but taking out the emotional driver from the equation seems to be a pretty valuable point in its favour. But I guess that's not going to make it into the marketing material "Come buy this car as we can't trust you not to get your knickers in a twist because someone overtook you".

    they should all be boring AF to drive on public roads.

    Let's get rid of all bikes that aren't Dutch bikes while we're at it ;)

  • We nearly get crashed into every Sunday lately and that's in Belfast in 30 mph zones, stay between the white lines you ejits!

  • https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jan/27/universal-credit-claimants-face-tough-sanctions-in-uk-job-crackdown?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    Get back to any shitty work serfs...

    Especially sectors where we cannot fill jobs cos wages vs work conditions aren't so great.

  • Since May 2020, around £50bn had been lent out to firms under the government-backed Covid loan scheme. The National Audit Office last December warned it had “limited verification, and no credit checks on borrowers, which made it vulnerable to fraud and losses”.

    .......

    "More than 1.5m loans were made. Yet there are only about 1.4m UK private sector businesses with employees. That more than 100% of UK businesses could have taken advantage of self-certified loans that were granted in 24 hours and for which the state was wholly liable should have rung alarm bells. "

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/26/the-guardian-view-on-a-tory-resignation-a-minister-goes-over-government-failure

    Yeah. But it's the poor draining the treasury with their free handouts....

  • Yeah, I mean the stupidly light punishments on drivers are obviously a big factor here. Aforementioned dickheads can get away with a string of moronic driving instances and have no repercussions. And when they do get caught it's a slap on the wrist. If you've proven (potentially on several occasions) you cannot be trusted to drive responsibly, I don't see why you shouldn't have your licence revoked. As well as having the bar lowered for what severity of offence(s) will result in subsequently attained licences being revoked.

    I'm not meaning to come across as being on the side of asshole drivers, just that any plans to address it should be more than a sticking plaster.

    Thankfully I've only had 1 occasion where someone was intentionally driving like an asshole and nearly caused a crash (tailgating, then overtook, went into a right-turn filter lane and as I was passing again, swerved as if they were going to come back into the lane I was in). A good indication of someone who's got little knowledge or care about how significant the outcomes of their actions can be.

  • Does that amount for limited companies. I run a LTD as a director and took a BBL.

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