Functional bikes. Not Porn not Anti

My main reason when I was running one was that I preferred the cleaner look over spacers plus stem. So if you have a large stack of spacers you can make it look smooth.

Good for you! I'm hoping that this is the bike that finally takes away all my excuses at riding drop bar bikes during winter (in Stockholm). What colour did you choose?

He is talking about the idea of having spacers to move position up but then having a stem pointing down.

I got that.
If raising your stem is the only goal then obviously a 0° or even positive angle is much more efficient. In terms of aesthetics, that's just not for me then.
The starting point of this was about hiding a big stack of spacers though and not necessarily getting the most upright position with the steerer you have.

TLDR: In my opinion, a tall stack stem can look more pleasing than a stack of spacers + stem that results in the same reach and stack.

To be honest, I'll have a 5mm spacer and a 0deg stem. My back and neck are Slamthatstem friendly, so this should be a breeze.

@SasenFrAsen I've gone for the midnight blue version!

VO stem on this one, with brake hanger and bell below it. The bars wind up just a fraction below saddle height which is fine for noodling around the neighborhood. I was going to do a normal stem with rise but this came up used for cheap and it's a good fit. My back and neck are sadly no longer slamtastic!

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Oh I know

Lol

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I frickin love it ... apart from the gearing, which I'd hate ...

This is an absolute dream.

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How much clearance do those pannier have off the ground?

Looks like between zero and none.

Looks like it's been taken off and placed next to the wheel?

The pannier on the non ds seems higher, like its attached to the rack?

I’ve had one for 6+ years and NEVER had that problem.

I asked the same in hacks/bodges :) it was detached for photo

That isn't functional

Pretty much, only if you corner like a roadie or go off road with it that low.

That looks alright

I need one of those rack/basket/bag vibes going on.

I'd recommend getting a more sturdy rack than that though, I have an M-18 and it's a bit wobbly when loaded

I have a basket on a pizza rack and thats been nothing but solid, even with around 15kg on it.

Maybe I just need a bag then.