Running

Ok so I that helps - I imagine this is a volume thing. 10km per day consecutively at the same pace even if feeling easy is going to be a lot of load and your knees are feeling it. Maybe add in a shorter bill session or something higher cardio like intervals rather than just distance

Cool, thanks.

Does anyone know of any apps/way to pre load a half marathon training programme onto an Apple Watch?

Stryd will do it but you need their power meter

Did my first organised 10k event today. Just a hair under 41 mins - overcooked it out the gate and payed hard, otherwise could have scraped a sub-40.

Mate did it in 36-something 😂

My neighbour is running this:
http://mudcrew.co.uk/event/the-arc-of-attrition/
Casually mentioned it mid conversation.
Nutter.

Proper hard stuff. Would love to give it a go one year.

I sometimes do this with 10k, easy to let the early adrenaline fool you, then you are counting down the last km's.

Knee pain could be ligament, muscle, meniscus, or other, or all.

My frame of reference is knee pain brought about by a combination of weight gain, muscle loss (particularly around the vastus medialis), exacerbating poor control, leading to inflammation around the medial collateral ligament, and general scrawnchiness of the meniscus.

Treatment was initially neuromuscular exercises to bring wayward motions back into check, then transitioning to strength work, from general (squats), to specific (single leg stiff deadlift, or split squat with banded extensions), to extremely specific (seated banded oblique leg extension to target the vastus & nothing else).

You experience may be any combo, or none, of the above, and even if the same, an effective treatment may be any combo from all to none of the above.

Seeing two physio has fixed it (fingers crossed) for me - you may be luckier!

I was supposed to be running / swimming from Marazion (cutting up to the North coast) to Land's End last year (but then covid etc...).

This looks brutal.

Anyone running Paris this year? Amazingly they are still accepting entries.

Fan of barefoot shoes, but I find they put a big load on feet and lower legs if you’re running in hard ground. I run in them once a week for 3-5km max

If you’re having knee pain, maybe try something with cushioning for the majority of runs for a while?

Thanks, will check it out

How are you getting on with these?

I've just ordered some (before reading your review) as the price was too good to ignore - but my runs tend to have 1-2km before any trails which makes it sound as though these won't be ideal.

I was supposed to be running / swimming from Marazion (cutting up to the North coast) to Land's End last year (but then covid etc...).

Man vs Coast?

https://www.physio-pedia.com/Running_Gait_Retraining

I meant to post this to @edmundro
But its a great resource in general.

I suspect, sadly, that you may need some pronation protection @edmundro- might be worth a quick gait analysis at one of the shops that offer it.

I can’t get rid of a nagging hamstring injury on my left leg. No amount of rolling, stretching or warming up/down makes any difference. I suspect the fact I spend several hours a day balancing on ladders while we renovate the house isn’t helping.

But I have been wondering: how likely is it to be shoe issue? It’s onset coincided with me switching from some old knackered NBs to a pair of On last year.

Yeah I know they’re reducing my feet to mince which no doubt has a knock on effect on my knees. I washed them the other day and realised the sole has been punctured by stones in a few places...
They’re the only running shoes I’ve got at the moment and too skint to buy anything squishier for now..

I walked 11km on Saturday which was absolutely fine but knees are twinging on and off at work today.

I think for now I’m going to keep my daily 10-12km after work but just run much less and build up a bit slower to running the distance again.
Partner is a yoga teacher and will be drawing up some exercises for me this week.

Yes I really enjoy using them. I do more walking than running at the moment. Mainly because I’m weak and don’t like being cold and wet.

The lugs are deep and last well even when trails are interspersed with roads. Good lock down and fit really well.

They’re also really easy to clean

Great to hear - thanks.

Which of the many garish colour options did you go for?

Dunno if it’s related to the shoes but I’ve almost never heard anyone say a good thing about ON running shoes.

Are you doing any strength work?

Isn’t pronation one of those myths used to sell expensive inserts?

(I know it is a thing but that it is actually an issue)

It’s a double edged sword.
Worth a quick read:
https://fellrnr.com/wiki/The_Science_of_Running_Shoes

But there’s two points to be made-
1 you have arch support (which provides pronation support/ reduction) in pretty much every shoe on the market.
2 shoes without- ie the vibram/ vivos, need technique work first, then you can do distance.

The coupling of these- in this case is a overuse injury which could cause genuine damage if pushed too far.

I personally buy into the don’t use support philosophy, but I also spent 3 months a few years ago just running barefoot around Putney cricket pitch.
And now use - for anything more than 5k on very soft ground, a cushioned shoe. I’m yet to find a good replacement for the magic virratas but the a9 is good.

Are you doing any strength work?

I have been for the last few weeks. Curls, extensions and legs presses. I think it’s making it marginally better.

I find it much more comfortable running on a slight incline.

This is a good excuse for new trainers.

I’d sack off the foam rolling for now as always a chance it’s actually doing more harm than good.
A good S&C routine - swimming would be a real plus.
Good diet to aid recovery etc maybe some zinc/magnesium or oil tablets
Plenty of rest!