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• #1977
Currently down to 2 built up, plus Brompton (for some reason I can never really count it as a full bike), summer bike is in bits and gets built up annually, and I’ve got a new frame coming, which when built up will mean 5, and after that it’s one, in one out.
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• #1978
@Big_Ted - very similar! Envious of the straight fork, brakes and the lower stack, mine is now a bit tall for me
@jakemcree you've seen nothing yet!
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• #1979
That Seven fork will ride nicer than that Enve though. Get a -12 or -17 on that bad boy if it's too tall! You could also feasibly get some of your headtube extension cut off? Surprisingly easy job.
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• #1980
Interesting re forks but why?
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• #1981
Don’t chop the head tube or mess with stems, just sell as is and buy mine!!!
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• #1982
Well, in my experience, the Enve tapered fork is a very stiff, unforgiving fork. Even the 1 1/8th Enve is pretty unforgiving. Neither of them have much small bump compliance. They're both nice riding forks on perfect tarmac, but IMO curved blade forks, be them steel or carbon, are just much nicer to ride on the whole. A curved blade carbon fork is still stiff, but not overly so and they definitely do offer much better small bump compliance. I went from an Enve > custom steel fork > Pegoretti Falz on my Seven and the Falz just matches the ride qualities of a Ti frame much better for me. The frameset felt much more 'whole' with the Falz than it ever did with the Enve. The front and rear end of the bike rode very differently to one another and felt quite disconnected.
With that said, your Seven is a big beefy fast looking bike, mine is much smaller in stature, with smaller tubes and a 1 1/8th headtube, so that could have as much to do with my feelings as anything else.
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• #1983
whilst it on topic - what were your thoughts on the steel fork and their merits? still need to get mine sorted
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• #1984
Fucking hell, what size is this!? Lovely bike too btw.
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• #1985
Was a great ride, but it lacked lateral stiffness which you could really feel. Very flexy. But more importantly, aesthetically it looked wrong - Ti tubing diameter is just too great for a 1 1/8th steel fork.
The Falz IMO is a perfect middle ground between a steel fork and stiff carbon fork. Very, very happy with it and wish I'd just gone for that in the first place.
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• #1986
But Mr Ferrari and Mr Colnago had lunch and found that straight forks are better.
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• #1987
I know it’s tongue in cheek - but just to clarify - I’m not denying a straight blade fork can be good, just recounting my experience with Enve 😁
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• #1988
Quick shot of new bike, brought off this here forum, lynskey sportive, about ten years old. Frame, fork and headset came with the bike, everything else was swapped over onto it, from my soma smoothie.
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• #1989
I hear you on the aesthetics - then I see an old Cannondale track and think flat fork crown and skinny blades can look good with fat frame tubes...
the Falz does look good (from pictures I've seen on the internet)
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• #1990
Interesting, many thanks (and think there may be something in what you say about steerer and head tube probably playing a factor, let alone bar, stem and wheel stiffness. And then there’s tyre pressure…..)
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• #1991
Went through the same process on one of my Moots.
WoundUp carbon - great handling but so stiff
Custom853 steel - definitely less stiff, more bump absorbent, but slightly stuffed up the geometry!
Whisky carbon - settled on this for now, compliance/stiffness just matches the ti frame well (rider weight is factor in all these alternatives) plus lighter and better looking than the other two -
• #1992
@mattyc - yeah, it can work I am sure, but it just looked wrong for me. The Falz is great. Big ol' clearance in there too. Can easily fit a 30c tyre.
@Big_Ted - yeah, if I wanted a beefy go fast bike that I thrashed around all the time, I'd have a 44mm headtube and in that case I a am sure the Enve would work, but this is more of a chill bike that I wanted to ride as nicely as humanly possible across all varieties of tarmac.
@zephyr26 - I hear you. Felt like goldilocks trying to find the fork. I had a Wound Up on an old steel Seven that I acquired from eBay and I actually really liked it and the way it looked too. I would've bought another one if they came in a 50mm rake.
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• #1993
I certainly thrash around on a bike but not quite in the way that might be imagined
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• #1994
Talking of beefy head tube fast bikes, my frame arrived. Escaped VAT and import duties so pretty chuffed
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• #1995
is that a 46 for that FSA hidden cable headset thing?
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• #1996
No I can't accept the ugly top headset and funny spacers.
But I've kept cable routing to the NDS for the gram -
• #1997
That looks tidy, seems almost a shame to paint it black (although reckon that would look tidy too) - what are the decal plans?
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• #1998
Is it the chinese titanium frame? How good looking are the welds and overall quality?
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• #1999
Can't fault it. The welding is very good quality visually.
Five. Plus three frames.