• Yeah, I remember looking at Dutton Phaetons (complete) for like £1k as a potential first car. They're pretty shite, but still, relatively light (650kg or so) and pretty easy to work on. But yeah, close to bottom of the pile in terms of quality

  • Some of the weld it yourself kits showed that people really are bad at welding.

    But if the frame came from the manufacturer were they that bad?

  • Think they were kind of the equivalent of Halfords MTBs, very heavy for what they were and looked like cheap shite.

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