• I have not in any news or articles that i can remember seen discussed that even if the chart of deaths 28 days after infection numbers are rising the deaths from covid could be fewer than previously in reality

    I'm not sure it's possible to deduce a good % of "hey COVID is probably bless of a factor in deaths" right now based on the data.

    I'd imagine you can have a shot at it, but the data has to be there & the models to calculate otherwise it's guess work.

    Edit: For example: Do you take "people in hospital with 0 symptoms of COVID then dying?" "A group dying with Omicron not vaccinated at all VS delta"?

  • Sure agreed. I dont have a better solution either for reporting so its not about that but u could n perhaps should point out that a new variant which is more infectious will yield more deaths reported even if that is not the case in reality. Ppl look at those numbers to try and determine which way we are headed on their own and if its not a fair comparison that should be noted.

    Im sure experts and those responsible for our health are aware of this so its not that i think they have missed this, just its not in the message broadcasted so those worried who look at the charts could think its heading for disaster when infact its looking better than before. I have not looked actively if this has been discussed before in the news since its something that just popped into my head last night when thinking about that chart but im sure someone talked about it on twitter or similar but its not in the regular news channels to be picked up that i can remember anyways. But its also a rather new variant ofc and excess death will be much better info regardless.

  • Ppl look at those numbers to try and determine which way we are headed on their own and if its not a fair comparison that should be noted: I guess them we have the question of what is "fair".

    To me, it is an imperfect but at least consistent comparison. So if I see cases drop, deaths going up 2 weeks later, but then dropping again, I am thinking "right, we are over the peak, PHEW" so I am worried for a bit, then OK.

    But other people read "Omicron is mild" and VOILA let go of all the masks/being careful/party on/SUPERRRR and that's a personality trait, and we don't all get the same info, trust the same info, are on the same risk aversion scale...

    But it is also true that perhaps more context is needed, I do see explanations on the BBC (yeah don't trust them on some stuff, but covid news is usually OK) that explain a bit more.

    The sea of Twitter/random exports/social media confusion doesn't help...so easy to get lost in "too much info" "bad info" and even on here it is not perfect with sometimes unclear posts and also we don't always agree, so what to do?

    How do you asses a risk in that sense? When is info "so wrong" that "you cannot trust it at all?" In the past we just accepted government/healthcare info, now that's all gotten a lot more blurred.

    I guess I am a simple person...wear a mask (wear a really good one not cloth if you want to have more protection spreading your covids to others), keep your distance, get jabbed, be super careful visiting vulnerable people.

    The rest interesting as-is, I cannot work out even though I like statistics, I know I am not good at it due to lack of training/education :)

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