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She wasn't underage. She was 17.
I think you're either an edge lord or you're being naive.
I hesitate to say this in case it reads as though I'm condoning his actions - which I'm not - , but what he's alleged to have done is not super out there or uncommon.
When I was a teen (almost around the same time) I knew plenty of girls who were seeing men in their 20s, a couple in their 30s. A girl in my halls started going out with a guy in his 20s when she was 14 - but it was "fine" because they didn't have sex till she was 16. I was in a minority of people who thought that was totally fucked. Anyone who's been to those shit but expensive West End nightclubs will have seen old guys with young girls. Same in Cannes, and I'm sure plenty of other places.
As a society we've been horrified by the idea of men having sex with prepubescent children for a while. But it seems like we're only now getting to a stage where people reject the idea of men having sex with pubescent children. I think Epstein's original sweetheart deal shows that pretty clearly.
Idk any teenagers (or none who'd talk to me about it) now, so I have no idea if what was pretty common when I was growing up still happens. But I'd hope it's at least less prevent.
Edit: I'd add that I also don't want to take anything away from Virginia Giuffre's experience. It's fucking horrible and from everything I've seen of her my gut says that it's the truth.