Owning your own home

Sure.

But I've still had to clean and descale parts of our dishwasher.

I think reduced the impact is more accurate.

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

Either way I look forward to cheaper equivalents using the drawer method.

Just subscribed to Which for house reno purposes, can screenshot the various dishwasher best buy lists if that's of any use?

Bosch dishwashers are fundamentally £350 models that are specced up to £700. They seem to break quite often, quite quickly.

Miele dishwashers are fundamentally £900 models that are de-specced down to £700. They are built like tanks, but you don't necessarily get the nice stuff like cutlery drawers and crystal glass programmes, or wine glass stem holders at the lower prices. I believe the only part of their dishwashers Miele don't make are the wheels on the trays.

We had a Miele at our old house and we have a Bosch at our new one and I miss the Miele. It did a far better job and was much better made.

It's sales time so you might get a bargain

How long does a survey actually take to do? i have to babysit the surveyor visit on friday in my partners flat (the mortgage one was in and out in 5 mins) it’s a 1 bed flat in a georgian townhouse, top floor so a loft visit is obviously in order. no carpets to lift and just 3 sash windows to open plus a small UPVC with a dodgy windowsill to poke.

the buyers conveyancer said 2 hours!? really?

What level is the survey? Homebuyers report?

Banks' surveys appear to essentially be 'is the house standing, does it have a bathroom and a kitchen that can be used'.

Often less than that. For my purchase I think they checked it existed on Google Maps, and that was about it. Certainly nobody actually visited the house.

That all sounds like I would have guessed except I think a Miele might now be a £900 dishwasher de-specced to cost £900, based on my searches... But does confirm my view it might be worth stretching for

i guess its homebuyers report. banks one is done already

Would say 2 hours in the property is waaaay longer than needed - especially given how much of the reports seem to be copy-paste arse covering (apologies to good surveyors).

Perhaps they want to use the wifi there to write and send you the report in that time too..!

I assume it partly depends on the LTV. If you only want half the cash then the bank doesn't care if it falls down, they can still repossess and get their money back.

these are the main sections in the reports (NB. this can vary depending on property type, so list not necessarily exhaustive), each has about 20-150 words specifically about the structure condition.

For what's it's worth, the first one were all 2s and the second all 3s (no 1s for me..!)

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the buyers conveyancer said 2 hours!? really?

They'll eyeball some stuff outside then spend an hour or so inside.Sometimes they are just old and slow people so everything takes longer than it needs to and they have nowhere else to be.

This is for the buyer FTB so i guess a hefty LTV but the lenders survey is already done.
i would think half an hour max indoors, once you have looked in cupboard under the sink, the boiler, fusebox and opened the sash’s there’s not much else you can do.
the rest is just looking up from the street.

The illegal double socket in the bathroom with get him twitching.

So... I should buy.. Miele instead of this NEF then?

Miele.

It will impress your house guests.

they'll never see it!

The homebuyers survey on our house we were selling took around 2 hours.
The guy was walking around saying things into his phone/dictaphone.
It was horrible to hear him pick apart stuff I didn't even think I should worry about...
"Can't see if there's any air bricks under the decking by the rear extension."
"Door doesn't open and close properly"
"There appear to be frozen sausages in the lawn"
In the end it didn't really matter. The surveyors took ages to deliver it to the buyers who didn't seem fussed by anything anyway!

opened the sash’s

My parents house will be stuffed. Some have been painted shut for decades. More secure though.

At the other end of the pricing spectrum, I'm looking at this beko number after friends highly recommended it and Which seems to agree...

@owl that's the price point i like the look of...

Trust me. You or your other half will work out a way to drop it into conversation.

turns out, after calling the repair people, I'M ON MY SECOND IKEA DISWASHER.
D1 = 2017 - 2020 (rip, pbuh)
D2 = 2020 - about now and it's starting to cry and not wash properly

Joking (not joking) aside. I'd make a call based on how much longer you'll be there.

The Miele is more energy efficient and will likely last longer. But that won't really matter to you if you move in 3yrs.

We've got an ancient (I assume) Miele from the previous owners. It plays up, but it's easy to access to bodge fixes - most of which I did 6yrs ago in the hope it would give it a couple more years. I looked into repair and servicing, but it's actually quite expensive so have never bothered.

They don't read them