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  • I used to do everything straight out of bed, now I tend to do v02 max a couple of hours after breakfast if I can, but I used to do it fasted too.

    Sounds like you did a session the night before, then one in the morning, that's not going to help. I try and have a carbohydrate based dinner the night before, a good sleep then maybe a coffee and/or energy drink before or during the session, but TBH I'm not sure either of those did much. I found zone 2, SS and even threshold stuff was fine.

    I'm sure it's partly down to individual physiology too, might just not be for you, or you need to get your routine dialled in and it'll get easier. Either way, try to create the ideal conditions, ie rest day before, well fuelled & hydrated, decent sleep.

  • Do you have to do them first thing? That's the first question I'd ask.

    I do mine at lunchtime now. Much better.

    In the morning if I was doing gym or a proper turbo sesh I'd have a high caffeine pre-workout 15-20min before the session (or ride to gym). I'd get up earlier to fit in extra warmup time. Sleep suffers because I'm also a bit of a night owl.

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