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  • So for recovery, a key metric is basically how many ‘hard sets’ you’re doing. If 5x100 feels as hard as 10x80, both will have an equal(ish) knock on recovery.

    Traditionally, a drop set would be just taking weight off the bar through a long set so you can keep eking out reps. They are (should be) brutal. What you’ve described would be more like descending sets.

    A couple of ideas:

    1. Swap the 3x10 to a 5x6 at the same weight. That way you get the same total volume but without being as tiring. Make up for the extra sets by shortening rest intervals.
    2. Drop the 3x10 weight to a fixed weight and only increase when it feels too easy.
    3. Ascending/pyramid sets on the 5x5. So have one ‘heavy’ set at current weight and the rest a little lighter (5-10%). You still get the heavy load but psychologically much easier to ramp for a single big set than 5 in a row. And the volume will only be dinged a little bit.

    That said, if you’re lifting hard four days in a row then that’s a deep hole you’re digging in the first place. Is there no way to get a rest day between the two pairs?

  • Makes sense, cheers - had more of a read about drop sets & they sound deeply unpleasant but also pretty much unsustainable over several days, i was probably thinking descending sets - so the top set is still "heavy" but after that it reduces maybe with more reps, will have a look at that.

    I only really get a chance to use the gym when at work (Mon-Thur) & only for 45mins / 1 hour in the morning, it's not really ideal but it was working reasonably well for a while alternating light / heavy sets eg. Day 1 - Light squat / heavy bench, 2 - heavy row / light press, 3 - heavy squat / light bench, 4 - light row / heavy press.

    I think progressively adding weight onto the "light" sets has tripped me up a bit & they've gone from being easy to knock out in 10 mins to needing a good rest in between & struggling on the last couple of reps... combined with reaching a stage where the heavy sets are a struggle it needs changing up a bit.

    I'll maybe try a descending pyramid set for the "heavy" days & knock back the weight on the light days 10% or so & see how that goes.

  • Sounds like a plan. Let us know how it goes!

    Edit: I’ve recently joined the work gym in the am squad so completely feel your pain on the time limits.

  • sounds like you've got a good plan + the stuff @Ptown said is all legit.

    if you want your 3*10 sets to keep progressing but not progress as quickly to keep them at around the same level of effort you could do them as a percentage of whatever your 5*5 weight is. That way they will steadily increase but not in a way that may end up being unmanageable. Around 60% of whatever you've done for you 5*5 should be a good place to start.

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