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Yes agree, user error is the factor.
I almost pulled the trigger on one last month that was listed as perfect until I asked for detailed photos on chainstays.
The one below in in my sights and is local at the minute. With potenza groupset but rims are dead. Bike is in excellent condition. Not 100% sold on colourway.
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Yeah no evidence of this on a 2019 Supersix after 15,000 km and none on a 2018 frame that’s had a hard life. Both of those issues could happen but they sound like user error rather than design flaw to me.
One of the best framesets out there IMO.