• It was more an add on to the rest of the point, to say they have value anyway but also that they have slowed down transmission and made things much better in that regard. Maybe your expectations that they would stop all spread was too high, they really would be miracles to manage that in a year or so without actually vaccinating everyone.

  • But things were looking pretty good just a few months ago

    They were looking less bad, then there was a mutation that has allowed a lot of reinfection and vaccine avoidance, which is a shitter. It's all still relatively new at the moment, maybe future boosters can be tweaked to be more effective, who knows? Still much better with vaccines than without.

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