• The problem with the COVID vaccines is that they have failed to stop the transmission of Omicron in the UK. Why would we insist on vaccination for the protection of health care users when the vaccines all seem to be ineffective at stopping transmission to those users?

    As far as I can see the only effective control on transmission is total draconian lockdown. The additional restrictions and mandates in Scotland and Wales have resulted in no real difference in transmission compared with England.

  • The problem with the COVID vaccines is that they have failed to stop the transmission of Omicron in the UK.

    Okay help me out here.

    The whole point of the vaccination is to reduce the transmission as well as the severity of the virus(es), is this correct?

  • I think the reason most got vaccinated is because they thought it could stop the old n fragile from getting the virus in the first place and so that things could get back to normal in terms of day to day life if we were all vaccinated enough. This now seem to be completely out the window considering the infections rate amongst the worlds best vaccinated populations like israel for example. Vaccination has failed in this regard thanks to the new variant.

    It does show a great deal of protection from serious impacts from the virus when you have caught it but again thats a completely different thing. That wont end the pandemic it seems. Nor will it make day to day life go back to normal.

    I read today that the infection rates were more or less the same with omnicron between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. If this turns out to be true which does not seem all that far fetched considering the explosion of numbers seen all over the world then the reason for beeing vaccinated today and continue to vaccinate yourself with booster shots will be a very different proposition than the one we made a year ago. At least for me it will.

    Remember that swedish epedemic dr giseke or similar who claimed we were all going to get it in interviews like 2 years ago or somtin. Turns out he may be right just his timeline was way off :/

    In sweden now, which i know u know have had it pretty laid back considering we did not change our way of life as much as uk for example, ppl dont really bother to take distance in the same way the did say a year ago despite knowing that the virus is at the highest level since the start of the pandemic. I would assume this is in part because they feel protected by the vaccines and that is ofc true but if we want to stop the spread a much better way would be to order harder lock downs than to mandate more vaccination that does not seem to stop the infection rates very much. Yet our government does not seem to remind ppl of distancing and working from home to the same extent they did previously but they consider vaccination mandates for entering restaurants and shops etc. Just dont seem very logical to me at least.

    Just a crappy situation all around no matter how and what you do i guess.

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