• seriously? Do you still think the vaccines stop you catching it? come on!

    Yes, vaccines do reduce your chances of catching it, and do reduce the severity of the outcome if you do catch it.

    The unadjusted data you posted shows that to be the case in the non working age populations.

    In the working age populations there are major differences in the cohorts to make blind comparisons risky and erroneous. But it seems you are willfully ignoring this.

  • i'm not willfully ignoring anything, there are so many factors at play. I'm not fully up to date with the 4th jab timelines but many older people were given 3 doses and then a booster. Also many of the 80+ unvaccinated will be end of life patients in hospitals and care homes so not exactly sat safe at home alone.

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