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  • I think there's an implied stereotyping that assumes that you don't have educated articulate black people. The comparisons jump straight to poor black kids.

    Good point. However in this instance the point I was making is that what got these kids off was their privileged status and access to good legal support, which poor black kids wouldn't enjoy.

    Similarly, Rhian, Milo, Sage and Jake enjoyed a great deal of tacit support from BBC/Guardian Hampstead dwelling journo types, no doubt because they are so similar to the type of kids their own children would have met at prep, or maybe ballet class. Poor Black kids would have reminded them of their cleaners, or the people who deliver their shopping, and hence would have elicited way less support.

    In general, I think we should read the news critically. If I'm right, and this is just a bunch of posh kids that got a bit carried away on a jolly, they are a bunch of absolute twats for co-opting the BLM movement in their defence.

    Whenever the middle classes start appropriating someone else's culture they need to be resisted, not hero-worshipped. Look at the mess they made of Football.

  • If I'm right, and this is just a bunch of posh kids that got a bit carried away on a jolly, they are a bunch of absolute twats for co-opting the BLM movement in their defence.

    Whenever the middle classes start appropriating someone else's culture they need to be resisted, not hero-worshipped.

    Do you not know what allyship is?

    Your argument is coming across as "upper middle class white kids can't be BLM allies because they're too posh".

    Supporting groups less advantaged than you and uniting to promote a common interest is cultural appropriation? Really?

    What @dst2 already said, basically. And here are the answers to their questions.

    Can privileged people protest for the unprivileged?

    Yes

    Can majorities protest for minorities?

    Yes

    Are their rules?

    No

    Who makes up these rules?

    Fuck rules

    Won't gatekeeping ultimately help maintain the status quo?

    Yes

  • I think the main thing to consider with allyship and/or just wading in as white saviours is whether the actions are led or condoned by those affected, as far as I'm aware the BLM protest on the day and previous actions to sort out the statue weren't just white people barrelling in.

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