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  • You are so anti-middle-class that you're coming across like a plain old Daily Mail-reading right winger.

    Perhaps that's not what you are but whatever you're trying to say isn't really getting through.

  • You are so anti-middle-class that you're coming across like a plain old Daily Mail-reading right winger.

    Perhaps that's not what you are but whatever you're trying to say isn't really getting through.

    I think I've repeated myself a few times. I'm not in favour of inequality, and I think we should consider things critically. This is particularly true where people in privileged or powerful positions are concerned.

    In terms of the hotelier, my basic position was that she was a member of the bourgeoisie who was bemoaning the fact that she now found it difficult to get hold of proletarians to exploit.

    How in the hell do you work out that to be a right wing position?

  • She at least seems to appreciate EU immigrants, "“There is no chance we would be where we are now without the skills of people coming from other countries.”"

    proletarians to exploit: Well people came there to work out of their own free will, like I did when I came to Northern Ireland, oh, nearly 19 years ago. Were all those people who worked for her exploited?

    Many EU immigrants didn't all start with "high paid" jobs and some, like care workers, still don't have them. They just really wanted to live in the UK, and many of us stayed for all sort of reasons. But we got f-all say in all this.

    Brexit is a well-off people project mostly if you ask me, perhaps take into account that the same people that used lower income/working class/whatever label you like East European immigrants to sell Brexit were unable to vote and just used, but she seems to actually =appreciate= us EU furrin's.

  • Your description of the article was something like "posh bird complains about Brexit", it was hardly nuanced.

    How about the university workers striking over their pensions? What was the left wing argument for calling them lazy and trivialising their issues?

    If you want a discussion about privilege where people consider things critically, "posh bird" was maybe not the ideal opening gambit

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