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  • Can you get non electric Rohloff for cheaper?

    Or buy the Enviolo and then upgrade with Rohloff, sell the enviolo system.

  • Yes, I’m sure you can. You’ll prob be stuck with enviolo for a few years though because you’ll want to use up all the warranty replacements you can before investing in Rohloff.

    So a year or two of shitty ride feel, lots of drag, and (potentially) frequently breaking gear cables and shifters which are annoying to fix. And the hub having all sorts of issues which can sometimes be fixed and sometimes not.

  • Buy cheap, buy twice

  • I think it is electric on tern. Also electric aspect of Rohloff scares me lol, can I buy Enviolo (cabled) with gates and upgrade to Roholoff cabled when it shits itself?

    E14 is awesome with Bosch bikes - we move dozens a year. Mechanical Rohloff with Bosch has problems in my experience due to the added torque of the drive unit and the bends of the internally routed lines causing excess drag on an already stiff shifting system.

    Enviolo and Rohloff run their shift lines on opposite sides of the bike (DS/NDS respectively) and it's VERY unlikely the frame will have the necessary routing for mechanical Rohloff - if you don't mind zipties, it shouldn't be a problem, tho.

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