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I ordered them approximately 4 minutes after you posted this morning and got an email saying they were shipped before 9. They looked like clinchers to me as well. I'll find out what they are in a couple of days and if tubs find out what the returns policy is like. Appreciate the link at any rate. I remember burning through 18c gp4000's what seems like only a few years ago.
Ahh I’ve just had a panic there, pretty sure those ones are clinchers and not tubs but looking again I can’t be certain.. might be worth a quick email before they ship them?