Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Hmm....

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I've been to a few gigs over the past few months - mostly it's been a case of people waving any random QR code, sometimes not even that.

Partner tested positive just before Xmas, so had to spend the holiday locked in a room while I did childcare. I haven't even been pinged for a close contact. This is a small house, it's not like she's been over in the East Wing.

NHS app telling me to book PCR test, but none available. Not bothered as I'm not going off to work, or anywhere, anyway.

I'm not trolling, I like bikes and I cycle. I just have different views to you on how to tackle a corona virus pandemic.

Sadly all critical thought has been wiped from every mainstream avenue and this thread shows just how the that one single narrative has been lapped up and baked in despite being 3 jabs deep and a 4th on the horizon.
I am open to all discussion so please feel free to tell me how you successfully mass vaccinate against a Corona virus with a leaky jab and a super narrow fast waning immunity.

Ah!!! You're that previous troll with no posts to your name!? Stepped from out the shadows of the bridge have you?

free vitamin D and zinc

It's a virus - it doesn't give a shit about your vitamin D and zinc

Feels like it is circling our household... Daughters indoor play with friends are done after tests all round, all -ve means go ahead. Yesterday friends Dad developed symptoms whilst she was there having tested -ve earlier on, I went and collected her straight away. He +ve tested this morning. Another play on Xmas eve the Dad tested +ve on Boxing Day. Feels inevitable it'll reach us. Booster is due on 3rd Jan if all stays clear before then.

free vitamin D and zinc

If it improves your health having extra bit D and zinc, you were probably deficient in them. It was good for you in any case. Go for it.

@TW @aglet

Can be done using uBlock filter:

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but they're on their mobile at the moment so it's not easy.

Imaging trying to send a WhatsApp message and end up just sending a letter via Royal Mail instead.

Amazing.

Copying and pasting from a "code block" on the forum seems to introduce some inserted break characters though (an extra hyphen or bullet point), so you'll have to clean those up.

noticed they added a new colour to the chart, what's after black?

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My money is something with stripes. Or maybe dots/spots.

My wife tested positive (out of the four of us) on the 22nd, we didn’t see the point in her trying to isolate within the house given previous contact and the size of the house.Neither myself nor the kids 6 & 3 have tested positive.

I’d echo that I think this thread is generally a little pessimistic, I’ve made this point back in the summer when there was talk of another lockdown due around bank holiday. Again I said at the time that’s not to say that I think the government has done a decent job far from it but jumping on things like the reduction of isolation times without a supporting argument seems as emotive as the anti vax trolls.

Cases in a lot of wards in Hackney are over 3k / 100k right now, so I guess they aren’t going to bother with another colour.

Urgh, the absolute state of some people
https://twitter.com/culladgh/status/1476212244723732486

Presumably you had to use a desktop to post that

Noice

Small little nuclear mushroom clouds after running out of colours?

It is a another culture war thing. You either need to be an anti-vax loon or calling for a hard lockdown and doing three LFTs a day to signify to your in group that you are a signed up member.

Can’t remember anyone who’s called for a hard lockdown this time around.

jumping on things like the reduction of isolation times without a supporting argument

My issues with those articles that I posted is it's getting put on the front page like it is something needed but Government refusing to do and that it is business leaders and ministers calling for it (in each case it is a subset rather than the majority), not healthcare professionals or those who I believe have my interest as their main priority

To me it was simple: AZ has a risk of blood clotting, we know a rough figure. Covid has a risk of long covid =untreatable= and death (for me probably roughly the same as the jab) so adding it up, I rather had a jab I know where I am rather than a guesstimate on Covid.

I was going to call you out on this, on the grounds that mass vaccination is about society-level outcomes and personal risk calculations are missing the point - we should accept a level of personal risk in order to do the right thing for those less likely to fare well if the pathogen runs riot (my precise argument with @8b last time, which appears to have gone right over their head).

I was going to, but my feeling now is that, with Omicron, it really is now about personal outcomes. We’re all going to get it, there’s no controlling it, but two shots and a booster will likely see you through.

With that in mind, I’m less and less inclined to give up personal freedoms to protect those who’ve been offered all the miracles of modern science, and declined them on the basis of some bullshit they saw on FB. They’ve made their choice, and I don’t feel any responsibility to them.

I agree but unfortunately it’s our beloved NHS that’s going to get destroyed in the process.

Not explicitly in this thread, but I assume that is the logic of the people who think this wave is going to overwhelm the NHS.

Ps - they may be right. The numbers look bad today.