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  • These are the blue/purple tyres from the same Limited Edition run.

  • Thanks vm, I'll keep an eye out.

  • Anyone doing the Brother Big ‘Un this weekend?

  • Just 'nearly) finished building my new Kepler Disc.
    Liking it so far!


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  • Nice! My new Mehteh frame should arrive somewhere next week, hopefully

  • Is anybody running an Allday with guards ? what's the tyre clearance like ? room for 32 ?

  • Barely - my only success with 32s have been longboards. With rounded metal guards 32s will neither fit under the fork crown nor the badly spaced rear brake bridge. And with plastic you'll likely be using a half link to get your wheel as far back as possible in the track ends. Go 30 and feel a little dirty.

  • I'm thinking of building a Kepler disc as a flat bar commuter thing that'll maybe get occasional use fannying about on bridleways, has anyone done the same? I'm torn between 700 and 650, any advice? Also, what are the largest tyres it'll take with guards?
    Are there any other frames (beside a croix de fer which is the sensible and obvious but not very exciting choice, unless I shell out for the fun 853 version) I should be looking at that are steel, will take discs and big tyres and not cost a shitload?

  • Maybe the Ribble CGR 725 Steel, Fearless Warlock or Surly Midnight special.

  • Think you'd have loads of options from bikes in the gravel thread, although guess budget will be a factor. Could check out Surly Straggler, new Singular Peregrine (not sure when it comes out) etc. Maybe an older hardtail MTB if it will only ever have flat bars?

  • I've not seen the Fearless before, looks interesting! Thanks.

  • All good suggestions, thanks! I should have mentioned, I'd like a front rack so steel forks over carbon are probably a better bet. I'd also like to be able to lock it up without shitting my pants so nothing too flashy or eye catching.

  • Did this the other week for someone, obviously you'll want more steerer spacers, handled surprising different compared to my drop bar Kepler. I fit 700x40c with guards in mind, I had 42c sawtooths in there but it involved filing the fork crown a bit and never really had enough clearance.


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  • Cheers for that! Did it handle alright?

  • Wheelied easier, the frame is a size smaller than mine thigh, so not exactly like for like but it's fine. Know a guy who rode one as a flat bar commuter/courier bike until he broke it, in fact that was @Maj s old frame. Before I had mine I had a kaffenback which is basically a geared pompino and the Kepler is basically the same geometry wise, loads of people have ridden pomps as flat bar commuter things.

  • I had a kaffenback which is basically a geared pompino and the Kepler is basically the same geometry wise

    Huh! Really? I'm on the verge of selling my Kaff frame (too much toe overlap, not enough tyre clearance), and I'd wondered about a Kepler as an alternative. Maybe one to take off the list.

  • They've got more tyre clearance, I don't suffer too much with toe overlap but it's there.

  • Thanks for the insight! The one thing putting me off is that they seem to have tiny headtubes and need a massive spacer stack. I'd probably be fine on the 52 or 54 so would probably go 54 for the longer head tube. If anyone's selling one in either size let me know!

  • I've been tempted to flat bar convert my Kepler for a while. some nice builds out there.

  • My Kepler in it's current commuter guise. Frame bought from here. I love it!


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  • my mehteh before chopping steerer and getting the fit right


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  • missed this one - nice!
    i'm trying to source a 2nd hand pair of thumb shifters for mine - i want to keep the 2x 5800 road group but i don't really like the rs700 shifters #semiretrogrouch

  • Is anyone selling a Kepler disc in 54cm? Frameset or rolling chassis preferred!

  • Fairlight Faran 2.0?

  • Are you selling one? Or just a general suggestion? I'd definitely be tempted by one!

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