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There isn't very good evidence vitamin D helps =if your levels are already good= there is research I think in Finland but it has not yet concluded.
It's sad to see so many young healthy people lining up for these jabs with little to no understanding of them: Well, it is a bit more nuanced one you are younger yes. The risk of death is surely lower, and as a young man there is a risk of myocarditis.
But there is also the long covid risk. ONS estimates aren't so great, 1% at least, of course usually it fades after a while, but some people still cannot work after a year. Now it is a low risk, but I don't fancy that myself...
To me it was simple: AZ has a risk of blood clotting, we know a rough figure. Covid has a risk of long covid =untreatable= and death (for me probably roughly the same as the jab) so adding it up, I rather had a jab I know where I am rather than a guesstimate on Covid.
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It's sad to see so many young healthy people lining up for these jabs with little to no understanding of them: Well, it is a bit more nuanced one you are younger yes. The risk of death is surely lower, and as a young man there is a risk of myocarditis.
Apparently for young men there is some evidence that the Moderna vaccine has a higher risk of myocarditis compared to getting Covid but not Pfizer. The risk of getting myocarditis from Covid appears higher than getting it from Pfizer and Covid has a number of other unpleasant things you might not want to have.
(source Dr Rohin Francis, consultant cardiologist and YouTuber - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iABaxRWGxk
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The UK governemnt concluded a vitamin D study over 6 months ago and they still haven't released the results. If this was a study on one of the vaccines it would have been published and all over the news in seconds.
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To me it was simple: AZ has a risk of blood clotting, we know a rough figure. Covid has a risk of long covid =untreatable= and death (for me probably roughly the same as the jab) so adding it up, I rather had a jab I know where I am rather than a guesstimate on Covid.
I was going to call you out on this, on the grounds that mass vaccination is about society-level outcomes and personal risk calculations are missing the point - we should accept a level of personal risk in order to do the right thing for those less likely to fare well if the pathogen runs riot (my precise argument with @8b last time, which appears to have gone right over their head).
I was going to, but my feeling now is that, with Omicron, it really is now about personal outcomes. We’re all going to get it, there’s no controlling it, but two shots and a booster will likely see you through.
With that in mind, I’m less and less inclined to give up personal freedoms to protect those who’ve been offered all the miracles of modern science, and declined them on the basis of some bullshit they saw on FB. They’ve made their choice, and I don’t feel any responsibility to them.
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Offer the vaccine only to the elderly and vulnerable. Encourage or give free vitamin D and zinc to all and then monitor hospital capacities bringing in physical restrictions where needed.
It's sad to see so many young healthy people lining up for these jabs with little to no understanding of them.
The immune system is an incredibly complex bit of kit and it's not just about having a load of short lived igA antibodies that wane after a few weeks. The gov data is there for you to see that clearly shows after a short period you are more likely to catch C19 if you are vaccinated compared to if you are not. You can argue all you like that it's dirty data etc etc but please do explain why it trends upwards to further from the jab you get.