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Who said it was a ‘nothing burger’?

Sorry, I was't aiming that at you. There are a lot of people on social media arguing that Omicron is the dying throes of the pandemic and we should all get it for immunity purposes because it has been "mild" in SA.

It is quite difficult to know what you mean when you are being arch.

The longer this thing goes on, the more I realize how little I understand, and also how poor the general reprorting is. I don really understand why the booster works, I don´t understand whether IF this is a less harmful version that makes it harder for a worse variant to come along in the future.

In more positive news I got my booster on 23rd. We were in Lincolnshire, my partner had a booster appointment and they were quiet, asked me if I wanted it as a walk in and away we went. Not /entirely/ sure how I will get it added to my Dutch records but we will try.

Slightly annoyingly I accepted the walk in as on 23rd it was not yet being offered to my age group over here, but they got their skates on and actually I could have had it by now.

I did notice in the UK that nobody seemed to have LFTs in stock.

I also notice that the ¨thoroughness¨ of tesing at collinson etc places varies enormously. It would be nice to think that someone were looking at the data to see if testers or providers are having an expected level of positives.

I was skimming the posts while doing other things, even though it's clear you were talking about SA I missed it. Hence, life moves pretty fast.

Comparing SA guateng to London UK is going to be difficult as case mix and background socioeconomics of the country are different?

Just got pinged for a contact from yesterday.

The only things I did yesterday were nipping into a tesco for literally three minutes to buy a bottle of milk and go for a long run in a non built up area.

On that basis, I'm assuming one of my neighbours has tested positive.

Comparing SA guateng to London UK is going to be difficult as case mix and background socioeconomics of the country are different?

Yes, I accept that. Also there may be different levels of immunity.

However, the comparison I am making is between different waves in SA. I.e. if the omicron wave is less severe on multiple KPIs (cases, hospitalisations, deaths) than the delta and alpha waves in SA, then might we also hope it could be in the UK? Maybe not due to different demographics, immunity etc.

then might we also hope it could be in the UK?

I don't think I have encountered somebody who isn't hoping that it will be sufficiently mild so as to not overwhelm the NHS. I certainly hope that.

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Daily hospital patients, London bearing the brunt

Data source?

That's UKHSA data.

Or is on the coronavirus.data.gov.uk pages.

It doesn’t reconcile with the data on coronavirus.data.gov.uk

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Is it meant to be all admissions or covid admissions?

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

It's people in hospital

Thank you. Your original comment said daily hospitalisations, but can see you have now corrected.

It is the rules, friend was caught out by this and the positive over rules everything.

But here seems to have rules of their own.

I did notice in the UK that nobody seemed to have LFTs in stock.

No, you are wrong. Don't feel bad I was just as wrong as other people are telling me that further up.

Weren't the SA people telling us it was milder and nothing to worry about.

Gendarmes over the municipal Police?

I did notice in the UK that nobody seemed to have LFTs in stock.

I ordered some today. When I tried this morning (10am-ish) there were no delivery slots available, trying again at 1pm-ish and I was able to order. Seems they ration the delivery slots over the day rather than letting them all get gobbled up first thing.

I've never tried to collect them from a local pharmacy as I've always managed to have enough via home delivery.

(We chew through a load each week as my daughter needs to test for school and my wife occasionally for her work.)

Ah, this was wandering around the city in London and then in Grantham. Just me, and I guess more around me noticing the signs in pharmacies than anything else

Yeah, that'll be more to do with the lack of post over the last 3/4 days. What little stock they had has been taken by people collecting from pharmacies and the pharmacies have been unable to replenish their stocks.

I don really understand why the booster works

Long story short; vaccination lose its effectiveness like a bicycle tyres, you just boost up the pressure a bit when needed.