How do I bathroom / kitchen / extension? etc.

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Stainless is a bastard to keep clean, you'd need to be a maniac to do that.

Is that just build or are you including a kitchen etc in there?

Huh? We have a stainless countertop and it's easier to clean than anything I've lived with before

That’s everything.
I was quoted by a decent firm, 75k not including kitchen, that was side and out a big, very rough estimate, and didn’t include kitchen, oh also three years ago nearly.
We were expecting 55 all in.

I better keep saving then...

Aye, we got out an extra 80k thinking it would do a loft and extension, barely managed a side return…

overall build floor area - 4.6m wide x 3.5 deep = 16m2
16 x £3000 say for building work and materials = £48,300

• kitchen, finishes, joinery and appliances = 25k say so £73,300.
  Structural engineer, architect, building regs 10k say = 83,300
  VAT £16,660
  Total : £99,960
  

Not true, everyone knows kitchens on their own are 40k.

kitchen, finishes, joinery and appliances = 25k

I wish I had this level of restraint. I’m also terrified about how out my back-of-envelope calcs might be compared to your informed number-spouting when it comes to getting this place sorted out :(

Literally take what you expect to spend and double it.

It's horrifyingly expensive right now.

If it’s going to be 100k better off moving I think :-(

It's this kind of fear that basically has me considering taking a substantial amount of time off work and doing some short courses so I can do as much DIY as possible. Realistically however that kind of thing is for people with far more life focus than me.

Ha yes same.

So what are the big ticket items that I can do myself / design out of my extension?

I'd be interested in this.

I always assumed that it's mainly going to be interior stuff.

Got a first quote for loft conversion from Dan James. £60k inc. for a two room L-shaped job with ensuite, not including bathroom furniture or decorating.

Pretty much what I was expecting in the current circumstances, but it does also include reinstating the pediment (I learnt a new word) over the front bay window which was lost when the roof was previously replaced, and making that part of the room.

Absolutely no idea what I might have to budget for the other stuff. Presumably bathroom will be toilet, sink+taps, shower base/cubicle, shower itself? Then tiles and tiling.

Weirdly, I had an initial quote of £56k but on inspection that was just for a straightforward dormer plus ensuite, no second room. Was expecting a much larger difference between the two, maybe a cynical ploy to make the amended one seem more palatable?

Also expecting a quote from Creative Spaces, but might not get that until the new year. All quite exciting/frightening.

Looking back at the numbers from our loft, once you’ve added in all the stuff the loft company doesn’t cover - bathroom suite, tiles and tiling, carpet and fitting, painting and decorating, additional electrics, skip hire etc - it’s a total budget of their quote + ~40%, at least in my experience, ymmv and that.

Tbh nothing.
The big things are the planning, the steel and the foundations.
Things like kitchen are just garnish.

So continue saving and call the broker to remortgage

Well, I can do the steel myself, and a 40k kitchen for 5k…

#nosohumblebrag

That’ll make a big difference. The crap boring stuff like foundations and floor sorting add up too.
Jokes aside kitchens can be cheap, mines well over 50% bespoke and think it only cost 15k, I know you could do 5k of that work at least (assuming most the cost is materials).

That’s more a comment on insanely overpriced kitchens rather than my abilities.

So we've finally had the bathroom finished off today. I look forward to exposing my pale arse to the glorious dead of west ham cemetery!

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