• What I don't understand is the argument that having a Covid vaccine is a 'personal choice', therefore anyone who choses not to is beyond reproach because it's a 'personal choice' and should be treated no differently to people who have done the right thing and got one, which appears to be a popular if, to my mind, rather mystifying argument.

    It's the same old shite that you see recycled in all kinds of arguments about censorship and choice now. I cAN dO wHaT I wAnT!

    To an extent, yes, but not if it harms others. You also have to accept that your choices might have consequences.

    Surely the simple way out of this is to give vaccinated people priority for Covid treatment?

  • Surely the simple way out of this is to give vaccinated people priority for Covid treatment?

    This seems worse to me than vaccine mandates, I've no problem withholding access to pubs or clubs or whatever if you choose not to vaccinate or test first, but healthcare should very much be for all no matter what, even if you're a stupid cunt.

  • I agree wholeheartedly with you, but we might be in a position where healthcare is not for all, like we had in the first wave.

    A good example is my neighbour, Anne, who had severe Covid in the first wave (and has COPD), ox sats went down to 70% but couldn't get admitted to hospital because not enough beds. She was told that she was unlikely to survive and that she should prepare to die at home. She gathered her kids round and drifted off for 72 hours. As it happens, she somehow pulled through (after eventually being admitted and spending some time in a coma. )

    I feel for people like Anne.

    (heavily abridged story btw, lots of nuance lost there, but the headline of the story is representative).

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