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I'm a bit behind but I think the S dropout thing on PCR tests suggesting Omicron is only checked about 20 percent.

Scotland is going for isolation again despite vaccination status assuming every positive could be omicron? Here in England it's only lab confirmed omicron that contacts isolate for 10 days?

I think the NHS might think the same for its employees....

Looks like more people isolating...

So what are you worrying about? You may well be asymptomatic or just a mild case. Be glad of small mercies.

Hopefully Silly is going to be OK as you say, with Omicron R being 2-3 apparently then that's more infections at the party and at home :)

Not worried at all, just confused as to how the omicron specific isolation policy will be implemented without 100% sequencing of tests. And absolutely, not counting my chickens just yet though, fully expecting it to knock me for 6 in the next few days.

Wait for the SMS on the classification! My experience of the delta version was like a mild hangover and feeling tired for a week. This being a cycling forum, I'd imagine your BMI is below average and that you're under 50, so essentially listen to your body and rest if you need to.

More "riots" here yesterday protesting against CovidCheck and vaccinations. From the middle of next week, unvaccinated people will need a PCR test to go to work which has ramped up the pressure as they have to pay themselves. Protestors and police coming in from surrounding countries including this from Belgium...

You in Luxembourg?

I don't like that the use of the water cannon, as I can't like police brutality, but we in Germany let them do whatever they feel like, and sometimes I wish they had gotten wet a bit more often.

Tell people that the water cannons are a new way of delivering the vaccine, see how many people turn up to protest.

You in Luxembourg?

Yep

I don't like that the use of the water cannon, as I can't like police brutality, but we in Germany let them do whatever they feel like, and sometimes I wish they had gotten wet a bit more often.

Agree about the water cannons etc. I think if they hadn't doorstepped the prime minister's house (his private home, not some sort of official residence), done the same for a minister and smashed their way into the Xmas markets last weekend the government wouldn't have brought in quite as much help. There's an interesting form of cognitive dissonance when protestors are arguing about the "violence of the state" whilst turning up for a ruck.

@c.h.e. I like your avatar

Booster pfizer vax done. (36y)
GP called early, made sense to book as soon as possible.

Boosted. Had a choice of P or M, had double A previously. My other half in the other room is now triple M.

Elderly mum's just tested positive. Family was all gathering there for Christmas next weekend, so that's fucked. Mostly cold-like symptoms so far, so hope that it is a mild dose post jabs and booster.
This really is shit, isn't it.

Had a choice of P or M, had double A previously.

This must refer to injection site, previously double arm. Not sure what my M is but fairly sure I'd rather be injected there than in my P

Do they do vaccine by suppository yet?

If Omicron is ten times less deadly than Delta we're still fucked. From what I've read, given current growth, it simply reduces admissions/deaths by the equivalent of shortening the wave by eight days.

Also, most of the claims that Omicron is milder seem to miss the obvious point that the average age of the population in the places with the most Omicron such as Gauteng and Eswatini is between 20.3(!) and 28. In Gauteng, only 5% of the population is over 65. People also seem to be ignoring the fact that ICU admissions are up 120% week on week and rate of growth increasing.

I am not a scientist, you guys know that, but "Omicron is mild" based on very early outcomes in populations up to half the average age of ours, seem misplaced. Or at least potentially misplaced.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that the assumption in that study that Omicron is the same pathogenically as Delta is based on the fact that Omicron outcomes currently appear to be the same or similar in the 20s to 30s age groups that we experienced with Delta in the UK and there isn't enough data to know how it will affect older people yet.

ah fuck dude. hope mumsy will be alright and keeps it mild. I can't bear the thought of my old mum getting it. and hoping to see her at Christmas.

So am glad I got positive PCR test result this morning (my missus was positive on Tues) so I can get it out of the way for a little while.

Isolation is easy where we are and have the power of a lockdown mullet to channel chuck norris through.

Hope you get through it OK - at least you should be done by Xmas. Take it easy.

It's been a month and a day since last ONS visit, guess they're a little busy. (Previous visits have been 28 days, or earlier, apart).

Will be interesting to have us all PCR tested. I've done about 6 lateral flow tests in that time (all -ve obvs) but I've been out and about a fair amount of time in situations where masks aren't possible (pub, playing 5-a-side, etc).

Tell people that the water cannons are a new way of delivering the vaccine, see how many people turn up to protest.

And masks are a good way to prevent breathing in the vaccine aerosol that they're secretly spraying everywhere (especially on public transport).

cheers ru.

This definitely feels like the point of the pandemic with the most Covid cases in my social groups. People are to be (figuratively) dropping like flies at the moment. Although nobody is particularly sick, moderate flu like symptoms at worst.

Hit a personal peak of ‘people i know with covid’ this weekend, by a long way. 20+ 25-35 year olds in the last week or so

Agreed. Nowhere near 20, but more people now getting it that I know than at any stage so far.