Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Who can blame them? The press are parroting some of these hot takes.

I also don't begrudge anybody for having the hopium bag firmly planted over face and nose right now. The mood is set from the top. Over to you Prime Minister Johnson...

It's difficult as people are already so tired of the pandemic.

Perhaps a message of "have fun but don't do the work Christmas do then go unmasked to your granny before you waited a week and got a negative LFT" works, idk.

It's taking all the risk close to each other that's no good.

Cases in NL have stabilized but are driven by under 12s infecting others.

Cancelling all the parties won't resolve that, but not sure there's a plan for that.

In Norn ire schools can request free air sanitisers but uptake is poor, perhaps info campaign is lacking. I don't know.

Totally, why deny yourself socializing if the top doesn't deny themselves anything.

Is there a body responsible for monitoring corporations' compliance with government guidance on CV19?

The HSE

https://www.hse.gov.uk/coronavirus/regulating-health-and-safety/enforcement-coronavirus.htm

As far as I can ascertain there have been no recorded deaths from the new deadly variant worldwide, no hospitalisations in the UK, and generally mild symptoms reported in SA.

More authy nonsense to come from our govts. Let's follow the science. With the exception of vaccination no other authy measures seem to have done much to mitigate the virus. One wonders whether they are proportionate under the current public health based emergency powers.

Just dry your eyes and put a mask on in Tesco, you tiresome prick.

The forum narxist.. Authy and shouty.

Under reporting of covid infections and subsequent deaths in SA is to be expected due to lack of infrastructure in largely undeveloped, rural communities.

Suggesting that lockdowns etc have little impact is disingenuous if you consider what a shitshow we could have had in their absence.

If there are no UK hospitalisations we have no data baseline yet.

You need a fair few infections first among a large enough group before you can build a statistical model.

Maybe this one is less dangerous but if it's more infectious it can still keep the NHS very busy.

Yet strangely, where I live, the last two weeks have doubled the number of people in ICU (and hospitalisation in general), infections are at a pre-summer level and we're at a daily death level not seen since March. Of course, there are circumstances that impact this (winter, more gatherings etc) but causal or casual links are irrelevant if you're the one on oxygen wondering if you're going to die.

As far as I can ascertain there have been no recorded deaths from the new deadly variant worldwide, no hospitalisations in the UK, and generally mild symptoms reported in SA.

You ascertain incorrectly. Its true to say that there are fewer hospitilisations in SA at this stage of wave 4 compared to the same stage in wave 3 but you're ignoring the fact that hospitilisations and ICU beds are starting to increase there, that mostly younger people are infected in SA so far, and there are signs that more older people are starting to be infected. There's also the still unanswered question about why more children are ending up in hospital with Omicron than they did with Delta.

There are some reasons to be optimistic for sure, but its way too early to say Omicron is mild and that it doesn't kill people. The key point is that if we wait to find out, it'll be too late.

It has also only been about 2 weeks since Omicron was first detected.

The key point is that if we wait to find out, it'll be too late.

So much this.

Or as a counter proposal, I think I may adopt a strategy of leaning this winter. Sure, leaves and stuff have been slippery in the previous winters, but there's no evidence yet that they will be this year too.

Today we've learned that two vaccine doses don't offer much protection against Omicron (especially with waning) and that ICU admissions are on the increase in SA. In more positive news, it sounds like three doses of the vaccine offers increased protection compared to 2.

All the messaging about Omicron potentially being mild is pure hopium for now.

https://twitter.com/SteveMillerOC/status/1468204385016565760

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I may adopt a strategy of leaning this winter

Whoah, this threads taken a dark turn.

You can now book boosters for 3 months after your second jab, and make the appointment 2 months after.

I've just moved mine forward by 8 days. Now the day before the office party. Hmmm...

I'm 40 and my 2nd jab was 4 months and 25 days ago, and I still can't book. Think there's a cockup somewhere.

You can now book boosters for 3 months after your second jab, and make the appointment 2 months after.

If you're over 40? Not available for me yet.

Apparently will take 24 hours or so for it to filter through to all records.

If you're over 40? Not available for me yet.

Ah, maybe. I am indeed Old (45).

Thanks, had been checking every few days. Notice the "It's still not live" bit is still on the website, although that's probably to stop lots and lots of people trying each time.

I just moved mine forward 10 days (to the day after giving blood). Also Old at 45.

Rumours that we'll be getting told to WFH again shortly. And vaccine passports which is going to make a few people very unhappy.

https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1468528194777145344

I'm confused now.The thing they said we didn't need to do, being done because it's a useful distraction? Or being done because they realised they were wrong and need to do it.

My money is in the former.

No need to cancel your Christmas party though, obvs.

https://thezvi.wordpress.com/2021/12/06/omicron-post-4/

Over 40 and just tried https://www.nhs.uk/book-a-coronavirus-vaccination/ and got:

"You are not currently able to book through this service. If you think you're eligible for a booster dose and it's been more than 2 months (61 days) since your 2nd dose, please call the helpline on 119."