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Thrown in

Technically up to you (it’s all a negotiation, right?) but if they’re integrated, buyer’s assumption will be that they’re included - if you put a value, I think you’re technically asking for more money which might be a shock to your buyer…

Personally for the sake of making a few hundred quid I wouldn't bother. When I bought my place if they'd have tried to charge me for the dishwasher and oven I'd have just told them to take them and bought new.

I would be bit put out of someone tried to price them in, I included everything when I sold.

Cool. Simple.

We’ve always bought shitters planning to skip everything anyway so never been on the other end.

You could price them up and then use that as a negotiation down the line in case anything comes up in survey etc. If nothing does then up to you whether you ask for it on completion.

I think when buying through a boutique agency like TMH you probably don’t play these games though so probs ok to just include them

If you put a price for any contents, you're opening yourself up to the buyer saying no thanks and you then either have to follow through and take it with you (and the place you're buying will normally have white goods already) or say ok you can have it for free.

So as above you might as well just include them for free, unless you're keen to take them.

3 years after we offered to buy various fixtures and fittings as part of negotiations, I noticed our sellers trying to flog everything on Facebook as ‘in storage for past few years’.
I wouldn’t keep anything expressly bought for a specific house.

The area around where my grandparents live is like this, knock down relatively nice 1950's house and cram in a mock tudor waste of space.

Ha we had a watered down version of this, on a flat that had been up for sale on and off for 4 years. On actual viewing they used all the lines 'hurry up please, more people coming soon', we have had other interest and won't enterain anything below asking', the owner has asked us not to show you this room for privacy reasons (turns out it was empty they just didn't want us to see it).
Actual prev tenant was in the flat at the time and just rolled their eyes.
Went away for a tea, came back 45 mins later and tapped the door, existing tenant happy to welcome us in and show us around properly. Apparently they'd been in for 2 years and there had been not a single viewing in that time lol.
Made offer 5k below asking and was accepted quickly. That was this year too. Place was habitable, we've made it much worse while we properly rewire, reheat, rewater, plaster, vent chim's correctly, replace window units, tonnes of small jobs like making the front door do basic tasks such as open, close and lock. Actual structure is good, we knew it would be 6 months work and currently going really well.
Bargains/correctly priced housing DOES exist, you just have to wade through 19 tonnes of shit to get to it. And be lucky, and shift your expectations and just be lucky again.

I always thought if it integrated, it should be parts of the sales, or replaced with a similar one.

We'll getting rid of the perfectly decent Bosch oven and hob as we need to convert to electric and my girlfriend not keen on keeping the oven that have years of meat in it.

Apparently they'd been in for 2 years and there had been not a single viewing in that time lol.

Hah, I thought the estate agent were telling porkies when they said they have lots of appointment.

turn out they weren't, the neighbour actually counted 22 people viewing that flat in one day, luckily we got it.

'Ecoair DD1 simple' is what I've been using for past few years, 300/600w consumption desiccant type.
If your planning on it using it in low temp areas (anything under about 16c TBH) a compressor type will keep freezing up, then having to thaw itself then rinse and repeat, they only really work IME between 20-35c
I use our one pretty much exclusively for drying out cars that are stored outside (before/after them being worked on and going to their new homes), which in winter means has to operate between 0-10c all the time. In these conditions desiccant all the way. In a house depends how you are using it.
Have been using ours during a recent renovation where needed to speed up the process a little with mortar, plaster of various types, paints and gloss. Using a 600w desiccant was getting the 16-20m2 room from....
8c and 80-100% humidity to approx 15c and 40% humidity in around 6-8 hours and then holding it there. Found that 15c is a nice temp to work at indoors in winter! The added bonus of it being dry feeling is your sweat dissappears nice and fast too!

Have also used that exact unit to attempt to dry a recently flooded basement in a mates tenement (old laundry space which is partially below ground level). Once water had been pumped out we left it in there for about 20 days with a big fan running all the time (moving it every few days) to stir the air up along walls, running through a supplied hose into a bucket that we emptied every day. Yes a professional size multi KW machine would have done it a lot faster , but it was a mate with zero insurance and zero ability to pay £50 a day to hire such a beast + the massive electric bill to go with it.

Sometimes they are, literally a show!

Interesting you say about the meat, have found most peoples ovens are pretty grim, fairly easy to deep clean something that isn't rusted out though with the right chemicals and breathing apparatus! Enzyme cleaner is what you want for getting all of it out, and TBH now I've used them on a few things wouldnt' do without it for cleaning gross food mess/human mess.

Has anyone asked their solicitor questions after completing? I think as long as it's within a few months hopefully they'll help me

-thinking about getting retrospective permission for my back windows getting changed by previous owners.
-not sure if I need PP to retrofit double glazing on front side original sashes (conservation area, not listed)

And a few other bits

Has anyone asked their solicitor questions after completing?

I did. They were helpful.

-thinking about getting retrospective permission for my back windows getting changed by previous owners.

That doesn't often need permission. I wouldn't bother, it's unlikely anyone will ever challenge it.

-not sure if I need PP to retrofit double glazing on front side original sashes (conservation area, not listed)

I think you do. Call the council and ask. There is a reasonable chance you aren't allowed to do that at all, you will not get planning permission, in a conservation area.

Yeah asked various minor questions not dissimilar to what you mention after we completed - lawyers were more than happy to spare a few mins here and there. Worst thing they can say is no!

Aye but not everyone can do that and to do it fast and make money you need to be good. One of my pals does only kitchens, he’s shit hot and makes it look easy but I’d say it’s far from easy.

This seems a real common theme with builders, we worked on a job and the builders were working 4 hour days, they had been there months snd took the piss out the guy. He only got them as the guy who owned the company he’d seen his house snd said it was great. Really hard to get decent folk when it’s into the 10 of thousands of pound and they want moeny up a bit at a time

I agree and our oven is pretty good, she quite set in a new one so she’s paying for it, it’s more that we’re getting a new kitchen and sje doesn’t think it make sense to keep the old oven knowing it have been cooked with meat, otherwise wouldn’t have bothered.

Bit expensive at £200ish but least she’s footing it.

What about the house, thats had meat cooked in it?

Cheers sounds good. Had a couple of builders round who know the area. One said you can't retrofit but you can change them for replica double glazing, one suggested the retro fit.

Oven clean would be a lot cheaper

So after not exchanging/completing a week ago because our sellers hadn't signed their contracts, their solicitors now have them as of Wednesday afternoon.

Ours need to get the bank to re-release the mortgage money due to the delay, so hopefully next week or the week after for completion now.