• Ah cheers, that could help on the first but I fear I'll just get some other reason ranging from 'I'm very careful' to 'I don't trust Big Pharma' with maybe a quick bodily autonomy detour.

    She's big on alternative medicine so I'm competing with a group of QAnon nuts. She tells me she's really very sane (and I believe her) and that most of the people in 'her corner' have really gone full QAnon down to calling Biden satanistic pedophile and waiting for Trump to be reinstated. But she refuses to accept that they're beyond saving and still interacts with them, which means she feels her position to be well considered and she doesn't want to 'pick a side'.

  • Sorry thats tragic.

  • In a way it is good your mum keeps talking...because they will not listen to anybody that is "not their group".

    Maybe she can pull some back to the saner side? Sure, it feels they are too far gone but there are some interesting talks on youtube from people that nearly got sucked into all that, but didn't.

    I don't trust Big Pharma: Yeah BP is problematic sometimes and perhaps still IS, testing vaccinations in other countries as it is cheaper first, that sort of thing and then there is the opioid scandal in the USA.

    However...there are so many eyes on these vaccinations I don't think they can get away with anything, the monitoring is done everywhere.

    mRNA is a little newer, so I can understand that perhaps she's a bit more wary.

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