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There's undoubtedly lots more similar cases if sought out.

The system is fucked.

Or just sitting in a parked car...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-man-terry-turner-finally-arrested-over-murder-of-moroccan-driver-adil-dghoughi

I think Anne Boleyn's ghost would disagree with you. Despite having had time to learn better.

I don’t believe he penned that letter. Doesn’t call anyone a cunt…

No case for charging him for holding a weapon illegally after this case then?

As I understand, the Judge threw it out beforehand (some iffy reasoning about length of the barrel of the rifle). The ruling was and is very contentious, as was the timing. Defence appeal to have it thrown out was initially dismissed. But then just before the trial proper, it was thrown out. Very odd timing. And more than a little suspicious to my non-legal-trained eyes and ears.

I'm struggling to believe I'm a member of the same forum

Vancouver floods. Taste of climate crises to come.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/good-news-last-flood-hit-canadian-province-some-rail-services-restart-2021-11-19/

In some respects yes, in others no.

My recollection is, on here, she was almost universally portrayed as a groomed child (in stark contrast to my irl experience).

Not trying to have a woke-off, but imo a lot of people are underestimating they innate bias. Their default assumes a brown girl couldn't possibly have any agency, but a white male "obviously" does - regardless of them being a child.

I'm not abdicating KR of responsibility. However, I lay a huge part of the blame of this whole thing at the feet of those politicians and pundits who propagated the Clint Eastwood style frontier bullshit where life is secondary to property. Even more so as they're exactly the sort of cunts that glorify actions they would never in a million years do because they're so insulated. I see him as being recruited by them, just as I saw Shamima Begum as a product of the extremist groups that recruited her.

Conversely I wonder how many KR supporters have any empathy for the kids recruited by ISIS.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/amazon-privacy-lobbying/

Good read.

They really are Evil Corp aren't they.

Do you know the people he shot were white? Or that the first person he shot had been shouting 'shoot me, n-word' at people earlier in the evening?

O rly?! Well, I guess that totally negates the fact that he illegally got himself a gun the size of a house to go and attack a Black Lives Matter protest. Yeah, just a lad who made ‘poor decisions’, he’s the real victim here.

That is a false inference. I and others have repeatedly said that what Rittenhouse did was horrendous. But if you are going to comment on it, it is worth appraising yourself of the basic facts of the case.

I see a case for self defence, I don't see a case for getting off scott free.

The whole point of Begum’s case wasn’t that she had zero responsibility or zero agency. Just that as a child who was, yes, actively recruited by a terrorist organisation she had diminished responsibility. And therefore maybe being punished by being stripped of her citizenship and left to die in a refugee camp wasn’t commensurate.

You want to argue Rittenhouse should be tried as a minor, fine, go for it. But diminished responsibility on the basis of “being a product of social / historical forces” is a bit of a fucking reach, tbh. We’re all a product of historical forces darling.

Linking these two is not the gotcha you seem to think it is

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Dude who the fuck has defended him?

I can't recall one person who has said anything in favour of what he did.

A few years back I expressed an opinion on here about why a celebrity who was also a
suspected rapist hadn't been heavily denounced and called out for being a rapist on twitter by his friends when he died. I suggested that;

a) they might not have known about the investigation.
b) discovering that their friend is a suspected rapist is complicated and it takes time to process that your mate is a predator.
c) the dude had just suicided himself. Finding out that a friend/family member is also a sexual predator is extremely complicated to process so perhaps "glad that rapist cunt is dead" wasn't the emotion at the forefront of their minds when they found out their (unconvicted rapist) friend was dead.

I was called out for being a rape apologist for this. I genuinely bieve some people on this forum have reading comprehension issues.

Out of curiosity, who decides what degree murder charge someone faces? If he had been facing anything but first degree, I've no doubt he would be jail.

If he had been facing anything but first degree

I think the judge allowed the jury to consider lesser charges. No idea what that actually means but at least in principle it was possible for him to be found guilty of something less serious.

The prosecutor decides the charges. As Stonehedge said, the court may allow the jury to consider lesser charges related to the charges the prosecutor brings.

illegally got himself a gun

Those charges were dismissed due to there being an exception in the law that essentially means minors can carry if the barrel is over 16 inches.

Seems batshit insane to me, but that’s the reason in a nutshell (source)

Yes, in his defence he claimed that a pistol wasn't available for him to carry

Real middle/upper class people apply bangernomics.

It's just a bit gauche to drive around in something flashy.

Lucky them.

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The road next to me is mostly £4m+ houses, replete with a couple of hedge fund managers and corporate lawyers. It's mostly huge Volvos, Range Rovers or the Tesla that's bigger than a Volvo estate.

Must be new money.

(shudders)