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• #8852
Decent non-TL gravel tyers?
Something 700c x 42-45c with knobs for some mud. -
• #8853
What's wrong with tl tyres? Just put a tube in.
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• #8854
They have thicker and stiffer sidewalls which make no point when running tubed, non-TL tyre will be lighter and more supple because of that.
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• #8855
Not like there's much choice anyways, is either tubeless or cheap wired tire in most brands.
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• #8856
Perhaps a dated view, did think some TL tyres are more susceptible to small punctures (if tubed) and rely on sealant. However most seem to be TL now, I've narrowed it down to these but would welcome anything a bit less spendy.
Pirelli Cinturato Gravel Mixed Terrain 700 x 45C
Teravail Rutland 700 x 42C -
• #8857
I've got the Cinturato M's they're nice, really tough and good grip. You can run them a pretty low pressures as well.
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• #8858
in my opinion this view really depends on the range.
for instance a challenge baby limus is a non-TL high quality tyre with thin sidewalls, but you can also have performance TL tyres with thin sidewalls, wtb riddler for instance, which make no sense running tubes. And then you have lots of cheaper heavy non TL tyres. -
• #8859
Challenge do tubeless tyres with their standard cotton sidewalls. Very s u p p l e
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• #8860
Only a couple of lines though so far?
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• #8861
Probably. They're also mad spenny
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• #8862
I put an Ultrabite on the front of the grrl's bike for our An Turas Mor trip. No problems.
I have a 650bx50 Cinturato M tractor tyre on the back of my bike and got a single, puncture that I fixed with a dynaplug. They'd already done a lot of rocky riding before the Scotland trip as a front tyre before going on the back.
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• #8863
I used Marathon Plus, Durano Plus and Durano at various stages of stupid miles. I would choose Durano Plus or Durano. The Plus options tend to square off a fair bit and the handling isn't the best but for a rear tyre they're SUPER durable though. So a Rubino/Durano front with Durano or Mara Plus on the rear is kinda where I'd aim for fit and forget, high miles setup where speed was less of a concern.
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• #8864
I've used GP Urban before, for an edition of the Transiberica. In fact, I just fitted the very same tyre onto my new/old Fulcrum road wheels I'm going to get working on the gravel bike. I punctured twice during the race on the Urban from rocks (it was used a rear tyre only, coming up 34mm on 18mm internal rim).
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• #8865
You could also use removable valve core tubes and inline valve extenders, my preferred option for deep dish pizza rims.
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• #8866
Looks like I haven’t punctured in 10,000k.
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• #8867
Any recommendations for a fast-ish 30c-ish road tyre?
The essential bits - available to purchase, tubeless, hookless approved
Go to’s would have been GP5000STR or Pro ones but can’t seem to find any
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• #8868
merlin have hutchinson fusion in 30
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• #8869
Cheers, those might do the job!
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• #8870
Just found pro ones in stock at mantel. Was able to order 2 x 30s
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• #8871
Nice one, have ordered a pair too
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• #8872
So likely dumb questions, doubtless covered before but neither have stopped me asking before so….
Tubeless Ready means that compatible with hookless rims?
And recommendations for a mixed surface 650b tyre, 42ish wide for hookless rims, not mad money (and tan wall a bonus but not essential)?
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• #8873
Nope - tubeless ready means normal clincher fitment, that you can run tubeless but you will need sealant
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• #8874
Thanks, how are tyres for hookless rims described?
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• #8875
I take it back - looks like (in most cases, hence my confusion) tubeless means either hooked or hookless
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Tim Ward, from tyre maker Schwalbe, says: “there are no particular restrictions for using Schwalbe tubeless road and gravel tyres on hookless rim as long as they are explicitly designated as tubeless compatible.
Are 700 x 35c inner tubes with 65mm + valves a thing?
Edit: Yes.