• Yeah those guides look rubbish. The one on the underside of my chainstay is shocking. It must be a good 3mm from the frame on the one side. As I mentioned before my dropper routing goes in Perpendicular to the seat tube meaning to turn it though 90degreees in the diameter of the tube to get it to go up towards the underside if the dropper is very awkward.

  • I'm surprised that he's not got routing nailed, I'm guessing the vast majority of his frames must have droppers... Perhaps it's a customer feedback thing - must be hard to finesse the detail when most of your customers are overseas and can't come back in to clarify what's wrong..

  • Something has to be don't about the guides. Water is going to trap under them where's there's likely very little paint and rust. Badly. The paint will break down and water will creep under the paint. That area will be a constant issue.

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