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    I think that's disingenuous

    I guess I see the conversation playing out on two different levels:
    Cars vs No cars plays out more on a policy/regulatory level removing barriers to people using more sustainable transport modes

    Good car vs Bad car is more a consumer choice, if you can get something that functionally does the same job for the same price but you choose the dirtier, less efficient version, don't be upset if people question it or say it is a conversation we should be having

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    I also think these 2 things are tangled up. The desirability of cars is so culturally pervasive that even if people say that it's just a matter of convenience and practicality that prevents them not using cars and keeps them buying nice shiny big cars, it's more complicated than that.

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    It would be good if there was just a standard range of cars (perhaps a communism state type of car). That would stop them being status symbols, you need an estate car, you get THE estate car, need a hatchback, you get THE hatchback etc. Remove the cult of cars.

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