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  • I guess one of the issues with SUV's though is that they are more inefficient by design, very few people are driving them in off road conditions, so the equivalent hatchback/estate (often with more space than the SUV) with the same engine will return better efficiency and lower emissions as they are lighter, more aerodynamic (smaller front profile as not as tall) and more efficient as not 4 wheel drive.

    Good immigrant/bad immigrant?

  • I think that's disingenuous

    I guess I see the conversation playing out on two different levels:
    Cars vs No cars plays out more on a policy/regulatory level removing barriers to people using more sustainable transport modes

    Good car vs Bad car is more a consumer choice, if you can get something that functionally does the same job for the same price but you choose the dirtier, less efficient version, don't be upset if people question it or say it is a conversation we should be having

  • I also think these 2 things are tangled up. The desirability of cars is so culturally pervasive that even if people say that it's just a matter of convenience and practicality that prevents them not using cars and keeps them buying nice shiny big cars, it's more complicated than that.

  • Good car vs Bad car is more a consumer choice, if you can get something that functionally does the same job for the same price but you choose the dirtier, less efficient version, don't be upset if people question it or say it is a conversation we should be having.

    But that risks becoming embroiled in detail, horse trading around age, fuel, emissions - which isn't clear cut.

    More emissions are (generally) released during manufacture than will be generated by the vehicle in it's lifetime, for example. So we should all be driving 40 year old Austins if we were serious about climate change, rather than Tesla.

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