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  • Did you read me pointing out that some SUVS are greener to run than their smaller counterparts as saying SUVs are green?

    A little bit, but I was more interested in the way this discussion developed from:-

    People protesting about SUV's miss a wider point about generalised use of motor cars to-

    SUV's aren't necessarily as polluting as you might think to -

    People who protest about SUV's are Dickheads.

    In reality, I'm not 100% convinced by the original position. To my mind - probably incorrectly - SUV's represent a fetishisation of the motor car. They are a car that isn't in any way necessary.

    The reason I no longer own a car is that years ago, when I had one I realised I only ever drove it when I went on holiday, the rest of the time it just sat outside the house.

    To me, driving to the shops, or driving the kids to school is just preposterous. What SUV's symbolise is that such activity is not preposterous, but rational, which is why I am conflicted.

  • To me, driving to the shops, or driving the kids to school is just preposterous.

    Depends where you live. Not everyone lives in cities or places well served by public transport.

    They are a car that isn't in any way necessary.

    Probably a fair point for most owners of them and other car types. A guy I know has a pickup and the most he puts in the back is the shopping or the bikes; he got it as he likes the image he thinks it projects (outdoorsy, manly sort of vibe is what he's going for).

    Problem is that car ownership is too connected to an image people want to project or that other people expect of them and their perceived place in the world.

  • Depends where you live. Not everyone lives in cities or places well served by public transport.

    In London, the majority of driver still use their car for trip under 3km/day.

    It's prevalent regardless of public transport being accessible or not, as hoefla already point out.

  • Depends where you live. Not everyone lives in cities or places well served by public transport.

    Whilst this is true, many people live in such places by choice - a choice that is facilitated and to some extent legitimised by the ubiquity of private motor vehicles.

    Much - probably the majority - of the traffic blight suffered by residents of London is caused by people who choose to live 'in a lovely little village in Kent', but drive to work in New Cross.

    If the right to drive in London was restricted to people who live in London, it would be a much better place.

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