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Did you read me pointing out that some SUVS are greener to run than their smaller counterparts as saying SUVs are green?
A little bit, but I was more interested in the way this discussion developed from:-
People protesting about SUV's miss a wider point about generalised use of motor cars to-
SUV's aren't necessarily as polluting as you might think to -
People who protest about SUV's are Dickheads.
In reality, I'm not 100% convinced by the original position. To my mind - probably incorrectly - SUV's represent a fetishisation of the motor car. They are a car that isn't in any way necessary.
The reason I no longer own a car is that years ago, when I had one I realised I only ever drove it when I went on holiday, the rest of the time it just sat outside the house.
To me, driving to the shops, or driving the kids to school is just preposterous. What SUV's symbolise is that such activity is not preposterous, but rational, which is why I am conflicted.
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SUV's represent a fetishisation of the motor car
Agreed. There are a few enormous cars in the neighbourhood. I assume, knowing little about cars, that they're SUVs - oversized, tall so you have to kind of climb into them, big tyres. I hate them.
Yes I understand that the general dependence and acceptance of motor car use is more problematic overall, but I do think the symbolism of these cars is significant. It says not just that urban car use is rational but that it's highly desirable - the bigger, more powerful and more dominant the vehicle the better.
Countering the cultural status of cars is as valid as activism towards better urban transport/mobility - especially in London where so much car use is already "unnecessary". (I actually hate these cars less than the incredibly loud motors but it's a close run thing.)
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To me, driving to the shops, or driving the kids to school is just preposterous.
Depends where you live. Not everyone lives in cities or places well served by public transport.
They are a car that isn't in any way necessary.
Probably a fair point for most owners of them and other car types. A guy I know has a pickup and the most he puts in the back is the shopping or the bikes; he got it as he likes the image he thinks it projects (outdoorsy, manly sort of vibe is what he's going for).
Problem is that car ownership is too connected to an image people want to project or that other people expect of them and their perceived place in the world.
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People who protest about SUV's are Dickheads.
Nah, people who do what they did are dickheads.
You can protest about SUVs all you like, I'm largely signed up, they are boring shit cars that are largely unnecessary - just don't let the air out of random's tyres - it's just childish. And that note they left, Jesus.
You can't condone that behaviour even if it was well meaning.
Incredible that the BBC reported it and in the way that they did. Assume the editor was trying to troll an audience segment or something.
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Did you read me pointing out that some SUVS are greener to run than their smaller counterparts as saying SUVs are green? Not really what I said.