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  • amongst all the ambitious people I studied with

    So yes, I am in favour of upping their wages. Plus one could think of some other perks or improvements to their day to day lives

    Fuck that shit, personal ambition isn't necessarily a bad trait per se, but I don't think it's going to be the best trait in someone who is essentially a servant of the people, or at least should be. I'm not sure we should be trying to attract personally ambitious, money and power driven people to the post of MP when all the personally ambitious, money and power driven people currently in charge are doing such a self serving, population fucking job of it. If only we could attract people with more personal ambition, and a bigger drive for money and power doesn't seem like the answer.

  • I think its a bit weird to assume you need to be super ambitious and money grabbing to want more than £80k / year. Has anyone looked at house prices lately? The housing system is f*cked up, yes, which means you need a big income to be able to buy a home that would be classed as a reasonable family home in lots of parts of the country. Are we arguing anyone who wants a moderately comfortable lifestyle is Thatcherite scum?

  • housing system is f*cked up, yes, which means you need a big income

    Vicious circle, innit.

  • I think its a bit weird to assume you need to be super ambitious and money grabbing to want more than £80k / year.

    That's not strictly what I'm saying, but looking at the average wage over country is a better way of finding people to represent the average person in the country. £80k a year is a lot of money, it's not millionaire richness in a lot of cases but you're like comfortably top 5%. I think things should be geared towards bringing the average wage up and the people in charge should understand what it is to live on an average wage, even an apparent living wage so we are all better off. Yes the housing market is stupid, yes it's extra stupid in London where the average wage is about £37k and everywhere else barring the South East and East it's below £30k, and they're only just over, but that's a problem that needs looking at from the other end, not making sure the top few earners can afford the ungodly costs of living.

    Are we arguing anyone who wants a moderately comfortable lifestyle is Thatcherite scum?

    Obviously not, but a moderately comfortable lifestyle should be attainable for everyone and £80k per year is dream luxury for most, even saying that the only* £80k workers I want to pull down are the MPs, to the level of everyone else so that they help build up that level rather than shitting on it.

    * Also very happy to pull down much higher "earners", no one needs fucking billions.

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