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@crow, cheers, that's what I used as a base figure, found one site saying 680mm another 688mm, so went somewhere middleish.
Old school BikeCad is way more enjoyable than using my shit old laptop.
@atk, gonna have eyelets fitted, but think 48mm will be without. I'll leave the mudguards on Winston 1, then maybe run this without. Not spoken to Winston yet, he's mulling over my original email and gonna get back to me, so chainstays may go a smidge longer and fork rake / head angle altered accordingly to accommodate 48 and guards if I decide to go that way.
@Cupcakes, ooh that's a useful resource, ta.