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  • Hope you saw the cheaper link @SideshowBob shared too?

    Fwiw: Fell Running Guide is reviewing some of the Nitecore Headtorches, seems to rate them as good too.

  • The Maurten is 80g of carb? The SIS says 22g of carb. Is it fair to say overall you're taking about 9 gels equivalent, dissolved in about a litre of fluid? Seems a far easier way to consume the carbs than faffing with so many gels.

  • I’ve just bought a biolite 750, it’s an absolute beast.

  • I’ve used the OTE super gels a few times recently, they pack approximately twice the calories of a standard gel so you don’t have to carry as many.

  • Just googled, looks ace.

  • Well that’s part of the advantage of Maurten is it’s more efficiently delivering what you need I think so maybe a bit unfair. Really best advice is find out what works for you (brand/caffeine/frequency) and go with that.

  • Hadn't seen these, thanks. They do a 80g carb drink mix too.

    Will aim to try Maurten, OTE and SIS Beta sachets.

  • If you wanna try some Maurten I have some which has just expired (Not sure what there is to expire!). Can stick one in the post

  • 320 sachets from memory

  • Running is slowly making me fall apart. Groin strain and back pain this week. Not even hammering it either

  • Running is very hard on the body - it’s the stuff we do around it that really helps s&c, swimming, stretching, eating and sleeping well.

  • Are you still running 4x similar runs per week?

  • I think Maurten has different strategies for different pace runners can’t recall how different they are but I do wonder whether the nutrition requirements are different for a 2 hour runner and a 4 hour runner…

    My one decent marathon I had 1 bottle of murten 320 and 5 gels which is a lot, but then my fastest km was the last one… so certainly didn’t hurt too much!

    Not sure what’s going on with my running, after 6 weeks of steady build up to 60k per week had an easier week and then had a crack at a 5k set off hoping for around 19:30, but by 500m my heart rate was already 180 and ended up with 21:33… can only assume that the sniffle and sore throat I’ve had for a couple of days is having more of an effect on me but really hurts motivation to get out and go again this week!

  • Yes I’ve been running 4x5miles per week. With yoga once and stretching well after each run.

    I’ve not been sleeping brilliantly for some reason. I see to wake up at about 0200-0400 for no reason and then take ages to get back to sleep.

  • Went to a new physio yesterday.

    Was told I should definitely start running again.

    So went running this morning.

    My knee held up find (lungs not so much).

    But I did develop a migraine.

    Which is a novelty for me, as far as running injuries go.

  • Might it be worth shaking up the routine? Add a mile to a day you have a rest day after, take a mile off the day when you ran the day before? Or something to that effect.

  • I think that’s a great idea. I do fancy going for a bike ride too just to mix things up

  • That's very kind. I'll message you to take you up on that.

  • Yes, I was going to post their elite strategy TM. Mad amount of sachets and gels. My previous mara is 3.30 so I'd be happy after 2 years off from mara's to be around that time. Decided not to follow a plan (have done Pfitz and Higdon ones before), just enjoy the training, like I am now and slowly ramp up the weekend long run.

  • I contacted each of Maurten, SIS, OTE to ask for a single sample of their carb drink. OTE said "no problem, we'll send you one", SIS gave me free 1 day postage and a discount on their high carb gel 6 pack, Maurten said "no, but you can buy a sachet somewhere, here's a list". I'm inclined to favour OTE currently and supplement with SIS, just hope it sits ok in the stomach.

  • OMM Langdale this weekend and the weather looks awful. Also, I haven't done enough training. Is there an honourable way out?

  • I thought the worse the weather is for OMM the better.

  • If it’s good enough for the Brownlee brothers…I’m a big fan of the OTE stuff, I’ve never had any problems.

  • Does anyone have a circa £50 rain jacket suggestion?

    I am wet.

  • Well. The OMM has been cancelled.

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