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Look up gebla or gebhla or gehbla boxes believe they allow you to use any brake/shifter with a Rohloff. Been looking at them for my commuter if I ever get round to buying a frame.

I honestly don't think I have the money. 1000 plus shifter, rim, spokes, labour, plus it needs different bars, brake bleed, did I mention the seat post slips, don't like the saddle..

It’s a v large outlay. Can you not get the Nuvinci hub replaced for cheap / free? A new one should keep you going for quite a while.

1000? Where from?

Look for used Rohloff bikes on eBay… seen one go for £500

I was looking into doing this, but none of them seem to be disc version of rohloff

99.99% sure you can convert them, it’s just the end plate

Just scrolling through Google search results, there's a few for 800 but mostly over 1k. I have always built bikes myself out of second hand parts, but I'm working full time until January and I just need this done.

Also the UA is the first bike I've bought out of pure necessity rather than any sense of fun: it's a brute to work on and to be honest I don't love it. Just want it fixed.

Perhaps I'll grow fonder of it over time! Till then someone else can bleed the brakes, etc probably much more cheaply time wise than I can.

I've had the slipping problem with my second Enviolo hub. Now on 3rd and expect it to go wrong any time now as the 2yr warranty ends early November.

If the hub is less than 2yrs old Enviolo will probably replace, though with my 2nd one they got a bit iffy & in the end sent me the new hub, not a pre-built wheel as when the first one broke. This may have been due to Covid issues. Luckily my meagre wheel building skills were good enough.

Incidentally, I think the slipping issue was worse in hot weather - may be something to do with the oil inside the hub being a bit thinner?

https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/ep8-ep800/SG-C7000-5D.html

5 speed, ebike specific, will likely do the job ok.

Do something fun with the money you save.

5 speed, ebike specific, will likely do the job ok.

That Shimano STEPS E-BIKE 5-speed hub has a range of 263% which looks useful and I guess it would also be a tough unit for non-electric bicycles. One drawback is that, according to the dealers' manual on their website, the inner unit needs to be removed and soaked in their maintenance oil every 2000km, which is more of a hassle than the Rohloff which just requires an oil change without disassembly every 5000km.

I wonder if - as people have successfully done with the Nexus/Alfine 8-speed hubs - you could run it with a suitable semi-fluid grease, which seems to provide better longevity and weather resistance for UK usage. I guess it would void your warranty, though, so you'd probably want to let someone else try that first...

I suppose that's what you get for something that is 1/6th the cost ish. I'm using the 5 speed and the range allows me to ride up to about 30 (down a hill obvs). Very usable first 3 gears. 3rd has me going at 15 with a cadence of 70-75 which I find comfortable on an electric bike. I was unsure about the range and the jumps between the gears before I rode it but it's perfect for me and an electric cargo. The shifting can leave a bit to be desired. It's di2 and I hated the auto feature. It does change to first if you stop and apply no pressure to the pedals which is great.

It's what I'd get I suppose. Rohloff is undoubtedly the best out there tho.

I'm using the 5 speed and the range allows me to ride up to about 30 (down a hill obvs). Very usable first 3 gears. 3rd has me going at 15 with a cadence of 70-75 which I find comfortable on an electric bike.

With hi-torque motors this would seem to be a way to go as the technology develops, i.e., fewer gears needed. I suppose two or three gears below the cut-off speed of 25kmh, when the motor assists, then closer spacing for optimal cadence with human power above that.

Yeah, it works for me and I've always been a bit sensitive to big jumps between gears on a road bike.

Also pushing above the cutoff when on a incline or flat is about 0.0001% of my riding now so 4 and 5 don't see much use.

@ dst2 out of interest what bike do you have and do you use it for work?

^Fwiw I’m only asking because if it was any other bike (not an Urban Arrow) and not one i used almost exclusively for work I’d take a punt with shimano too despite them having lots of features I don’t like.

If others had used the UA shimano combination successfully I’d be much less cautious.

I just know exactly how good Rohloff are compared to others I’ve used. And consider them fit for purpose regarding the kind of punishment high torque e cargo bikes potentially pulling loads in excess of 300kg (in our case) put them through. All while needing almost no maintenance whatsoever and having some other excellent features that make them very functional.

Bullitt and no.

If I was doing 30+ miles everyday for work I'd reconsider.

Does anyone know where I could buy an Omnium Mini nylon webbing in the UK?

I did this four days a week for the last six weeks or so on steps 5 speed bullit for work, on ave 60ish km a day pretty big loads. Thoughts:

Auto is dogshit.
Only really used gears 1 - 3
it now shifts like shit and makes some awful noises.
Delayed shifting sporadically, no logic.
Wheel slipped in dropout and needed adjusting 1 or 2 times a week, which is I guess acceptable maintenance but it did mean in the back of my head I was always wary when accelerating 'hard' away from lights, and yes it was torqued up acceptably.

Also based on those service intervals that means hub needs dipping every 8-10 weeks.

Frankly prefer riding non e-assist omnium with the same load and non hub gear, but obvs YMMV (quite literally) etc etc.

@William. Should prob ignore my advice then.

Is it your bike? Could you go rear derailleur?

The wheel slipping thing is a bit concerning I'd say.

@VeloSurMer might be able to help

Nah work bike. Omnium is mine.