• but it's editorially evil, running misguided campaigns against vulnerable groups and fuck me does it bear grudges.

    Interesting you say this, this is basically the impression I have from occasionally dipping into it. I think the difference is all the more stark to me because it was what my Dad read when I was a kid so I used to read it with my breakfast every morning in the 90s. As you say, the quality and intent of editorial writing has changed a lot.

  • There are examples I'd like to give but can't publically, but generally it used to be a lot less editorially driven. Their long running campaign against trans people and their rights is a corker though.

    Which is why @user119690 I don't think this is quite true...

    Funnily enough the reasons you've said you dislike The Times are the same reasons why I dislike The Guardian.

    You can say what you like about the Guardian but it doesn't have any vicious, long-running campaigns against vulnerable, oppressed groups of people. Unless you count Blairites.

  • You can say what you like about the Guardian but it doesn't have any
    vicious, long-running campaigns against vulnerable, oppressed groups
    of people. Unless you count Blairites.

    Pretty sure trans people might make an objection here.

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