Cargo Bikes

once cleaned, should I grease or oil the springs and pawls? will too much grease restrict movement?

Nah not really. Got a Sram one on the front because I couldn't stop the magura leaking. Not got money spare to fix it at the moment though

Generally need a light oil on pawls, no grease

could just be misaligned/need indexing

They don’t work like this, and there is no indexing on enviolo.

Thanks, I googled it and that's what I did. I Also, with a pair of tweezers, took out the 3 Pawl springs, cleaned them, and gently pichned them to give the pawls a bit more force pushing outwards. A bastard to get the wheel and brake back on, then test rode up a hill and it ran perfectly. Doubled back for a second go and it all went to shit again :(

So I'm booked at Lewisham Cyclery for a total rebuild, I want trigger shifters this time, anyone got a better idea than alfine 8? Rholoff is £££ and from what I heard no more durable

and from what I heard no more durable

Where did you hear that? I can confidently say that is complete horse poop.

Good one, I have the same (Billy) in the basement suspended from the central beam with tie down straps.

Where did you hear that? I can confidently say that is complete horse poop.

Lol, from a mechanic I met once. You'd say Roloff worth the initial outlay then?
Also need to look at lead time, I'm supposed to be moving house in a couple of weeks

Happy to loan you mine if the dates work dude.

Did a 5 by 5 kallax bit had to dismantle it as was too heavy for me to move around onto the bike by myself

Ah ok! Shows what I know.

Thats an incredibly kind offer. Is it your personal machine? a UA XL?

I'll be booking 2x riders with trailers from pedalme as well.

Roloff worth the initial outlay then?

I sound like a broken record on this thread but.. yes, 100%!

Also I’ve never seen any UA with Shimano hub gears. I don’t know why, if it works or not but would want to look into why that is.

Yeah this mechanic simply talking bullshit.

Anyone who says Rohloff is shit has never actually spent time on one / working with them.

Very much a best friend deals with the Uk servicing and 99% of the time they can be sorted even after things like a house fire?!

I’d buy one in an instant.

I keep putting it off tho… maybe that spare orange one at work… hmmm!

Right thanks both, sold. Are they trigger shift compatible?

You can fit cinq5 triggers which are dogshit. I find the grip shifter to actually be great as it just pulls cables, doesn’t index

It's a PM bike but if I'm not using it you are welcome to it for the move.

Rohloff > all other igh. Evidence? Backed by literally thousands of people doing mad miles on them. Any trouble is swiftly dealt with by distributor /mftr.
Shifters are a bit marmite though

After doing near 500miles on a 5 speed Shimano I wonder what you'd need all those gears for on an electric bike that cuts out at 15 mph. I use first to set off, second to pootle and 3 rd to go 15 mph.

The appeal of Rohloff for e-cargo isn’t the number of gears it has. Although it’s total range is good

You can fit cinq5 triggers which are dogshit. I find the grip shifter to actually be great as it just pulls cables, doesn’t index

I want my gears to index. Part of the problem with the enviolo, before I destroyed it, was having to stop pedaling on steep climbs to find a gear, then have no idea how many gears I'd changed, and lose all momentum.

Also gripshift involves the whole wrist / arm, is clumsy and un ergonomic. Just utter dogshit all round really.

Rohloff hub does the indexing, not the shifter.

I’d highly recommend finding one to test

Not like you haven’t worked for pedal me before and done several hundred miles on a UA with Rohloff ;-)

They were very reliable hubs to use but then I never was responsible for servicing them, so good to hear it from user / owners. I will hate grip shifting until my dying breath, though.

Obv didn’t know you have ride time on one…

Servicing, just do your oil changes and don’t abuse it.

Simon @ thorn cycles probably knows the most about Rohloff in the country..