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I think this exactly mirrors the comments about Corbyn when he was leader, and there is a lot of those (including me at times) on the left that are very quick to level the same criticisms at Starmer to try and evidence the rough ride Corbyn got from the labour party too, and their part in his downfall.
For myself - I do like winding up Starmer fanatics but in the end its just talk and I want us to crush the Tories as bad as anyone, and am prepared to get behind any leader as long as that happens.
n3il-
very quick to level the same criticisms at Starmer to try and evidence the rough ride Corbyn got from the labour party too
I think this is it for me - two wrongs don’t make a right. If this tough time was entirely hidden, I’d say it doesn’t matter that much, but it seems pretty visible so the news tends to be ‘labour is divided’ which is more interesting /easier to report on than ‘labour have opposed this policy with X, Y, Z’
I am not a Starmer fanatic and have some criticisms of him as well, but f* me it is tiring just reading “look, he’s shit isn’t he” over and over again from people on the left
andyfallsoff
Yeah maybe, but the views on him I encounter elsewhere tend to be more mixed / nuanced than what i see on this board - where it feels like people would prefer to jump on anything bad than say anything good (w. exception of ReekBlefs). The feeling I get from this thread (rightly or wrongly) is that people want him to do badly.