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Yeah maybe, but the views on him I encounter elsewhere tend to be more mixed / nuanced than what i see on this board - where it feels like people would prefer to jump on anything bad than say anything good (w. exception of ReekBlefs). The feeling I get from this thread (rightly or wrongly) is that people want him to do badly.
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Yeah maybe, but the views on him I encounter elsewhere tend to be more mixed / nuanced than what i see on this board
I think that, unlike some here, the general public doesn’t care that he was elected from the membership based on a left leaning policy platform that he’s abandoning at will, whilst also trying to consolidate power of the right of the party.
The electorate had an incredibly polarised view of Corbyn (and we can debate ad infinium why that was), but Starmer can’t seem to provoke much emotion from anyone outside of the labour membership. IMO that makes him more ‘unelectable’ than Corbyn, and he’s not even pushing a policy platform that excites me.
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I think this exactly mirrors the comments about Corbyn when he was leader, and there is a lot of those (including me at times) on the left that are very quick to level the same criticisms at Starmer to try and evidence the rough ride Corbyn got from the labour party too, and their part in his downfall.
For myself - I do like winding up Starmer fanatics but in the end its just talk and I want us to crush the Tories as bad as anyone, and am prepared to get behind any leader as long as that happens.
JamesQGM
n3il
Would that not be indicative of the opinions around Starmer (or any leader with a topic) though? If he was doing fantastically well, it'd be reflected in what people are saying. If he's doing a bit shit, then the return opinions are showing that.