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  • Convincing people to get out and help Labour win is Starmers job. Going further right than the Tories isn't exactly making me want to pound the streets for them.

  • I'm also not sure Chris Williamson and Lowkey are representative of the 'labour left'

  • Lol this is so weak.

    Criticising Starmer for trying to out-authoritarian the Tories isn’t “factional nonsense”. I want Labour to be providing opposition on this, not nodding along and saying “yes, but can we made it more crackdown-y?”. It says bad things about what Starmer’s tendencies would be should he get into power.

    Conversely, yes, the PLP moving to permanently exclude Corbyn is factional nonsense. That was kind of my point: it’s the PLP engaging in factional nonsense at a time when you think they would have better things to do, like provide some opposition to this government and their shocking handling of just about everything.

    I don’t even know who or what Lowkey is, and I’ve never read the canary so idgaf about those people. Last time I checked they didn’t have control of the party, and as far as I’m concerned they are irrelevant.

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