As an EU citizen living in NI seeing the Tories laugh when they voted against automatic right to stay in 2019 I've no easy answers.
I don't think the cons voters are all pure bigots, at the same time they tend to deny the consequences of their actions.
But some many people just parrot easy media answers (yes a bit on the left too) that I'm not sure they really genuinely deeply mean it?
It's possible the silent majority of their voters isn't happy with the nastiness but where are they going to go with fptp?
Same time I can get fucked so...
Then while I understand the scum remark of Rayner it's also not helpful as it increases the unpleasant mood. Yeah sure, universal credit cuts and a mostly right wing media that loves tribalism doesn't help but it just adds to the bickering.
Politics is in that sense shit, while surely most people want work to pay, good public services etc.
I guess that the start is that perhaps we need more long term projects apart from politics to improve society?
And I guess understand we are always somebody's "bad person" a bit of moral humility is perhaps also needed.
(And I need to stop looking at Cummings Patel and Boris before my reasonable mood vanishes ;)
while surely most people want ... good public services
Lots of people don't want that. They don't want to pay for things they don't use and would rather pay for things they do use when they use them. 'Why should people without children pay for schools' etc.
Why should people without children pay for schools' etc.
To that the response should be that everybody benefits from a society with a higher standard of education.it reduces crime, boosts productivity etc etc
As an EU citizen living in NI seeing the Tories laugh when they voted against automatic right to stay in 2019 I've no easy answers.
I don't think the cons voters are all pure bigots, at the same time they tend to deny the consequences of their actions.
But some many people just parrot easy media answers (yes a bit on the left too) that I'm not sure they really genuinely deeply mean it?
It's possible the silent majority of their voters isn't happy with the nastiness but where are they going to go with fptp?
Same time I can get fucked so...
Then while I understand the scum remark of Rayner it's also not helpful as it increases the unpleasant mood. Yeah sure, universal credit cuts and a mostly right wing media that loves tribalism doesn't help but it just adds to the bickering.
Politics is in that sense shit, while surely most people want work to pay, good public services etc.
I guess that the start is that perhaps we need more long term projects apart from politics to improve society?
And I guess understand we are always somebody's "bad person" a bit of moral humility is perhaps also needed.
(And I need to stop looking at Cummings Patel and Boris before my reasonable mood vanishes ;)