• Picking up on Steve's post from yesterday - I was thinking about the future of ICE cars as I drove home from Peaslake this afternoon.

    My gut feeling is that the petrol cars that survive the transition to an EV norm are going to be the older ones, and not just because they'll be the ones that have the nostalgia value- I genuinely think they're better than modern ones.

    Not, to be clear, as transport to get from A to B. My 2015 Mercedes is simply a better can than the 2006 Mercedes or the 1996 Volvo that went before it. But, and this is the key - the older cars were much move involving. I think a large part of that is that the older cars had hydraulic power steering - no car that I've tried with electronic PS has much feel. But they also had more character in how they delivered their power as well. The Volvo 850R (at the end of my ownership, I'd be interested to see how it performs now having belonged to Nurse Holiday for a while now) was, as a car, nowhere near as good as the E63 as a turbo-charged road car. But it was a lot more fun. Partly because the E63 doesn't really feel turbo-charged in the old school "nothing nothing nothing WOOOOSH" manner - it just feels hugely linear. But that means it doesn't have the excitement of turbo-lag, nor does it have the feeling of a naturally aspirated engine coming on cam and starting to really scream.

    TL:DR - I think the cars that we will keep are the older ones, which is possibly going to throw up some interesting bargains in ten years.

  • TL:DR - I think the cars that we will keep are the older ones, which is possibly going to throw up some interesting bargains in ten years.

    How encouraging. I shall continue with the Lexus IS250. It is an unfashionable drive, but I am old and do not care.

  • It is an unfashionable drive, but I am old and do not care.

    "The Japanese Mercedes" 😎

  • Easy now, I've seen a few LS-swapped Lexus drift machines on YouTube... I think they're cool AF...

  • @mcmyk First gen IS200 became cheap imports to the UK yet were perfect disposable goods as you could get away with no servicing and no doing anything unless the MOT said so. You could pick up is200 with emission failures sub 100k and needing servicing such as disc and pads for scrap car money.

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