• A lot of the riding I did last autumn/winter/spring was when it wasn't raining but the ground was very wet - you got a huge amount of vectored spray, but nothing coming out of the sky vertically downward.

    So for e.g. if you wore waterproof trousers and a standard jersey you got a wet stripe up your back.

    Same day, same conditions, waterproof jacket with the trousers - way too hot, so very sweaty, but not muddy.

    = I'm going to throw a jacket on when it's raining, but I don't want to wear one when it's not, but when it is very wet.

  • was when it wasn't raining but the ground was very wet

    Ah aye ok fair enough, does make a lot of sense.
    This was the problem with the endura onesie. If it wasn’t simultaneously cold and raining then it got pretty sweaty.
    The struggle of staying dry without being too hot is very real.
    There’s got to be sub £400 solution though.

  • Shorts over dwr bib shorts, and possibly a gilet?

    I get hot and sweaty so despite liking the poc dungarees I would rather they made something more like lederhosen

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